Pins, Threads, and Joints Question??

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Total_Chaos13

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I'm sure this is a newb question, but i tried the search but didn't find anything useful. It was probably more me not knowing what exactly to search as you have to ask the right question to get the right answer. So here's a few questions.


Why so many different sizes and threads for pins and joints? How in the world can you tell them apart??

I have a viking g series cue and have no idea what the thread size is, I know its the viking quick release but that doesn't tell me anything. I sometimes look though the selling/wanted section and see all kind of shafts for sell but have no idea if it will fit my cue.

Then you see different joint material. I'm assuming that the joint material will affect the hit of the cue. Would to identical cues weighted the same with only different joints have vastly different feels to them?

I am thinking about getting another shaft for my cue. One i can try different tips on but not mess up what i have and then not have a tip. I like the lepro tip on my viking but I don't love it, so I would be great to have another shaft to try some different tips on until I find one I love. Plus i would also like to try a ld shaft as well. I see great deals on shafts here that wold be perfect to buy and try and then if I don't like I can resell here and pass along a great deal to a fellow broad member.
 
It shouldnt matter if its quick release or not. However, a lot of shafts have different diameter joint collars. So it may screw on, but it may be larger or smaller around. Of course if its a actual Viking shaft, it should fit just right.


Joe
 
Total_Chaos13 said:
SO will any shaft work if its 5/16X18 or is there something special about the quick release?
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Here's a picture of the Viking quick release joint. Notice that the end of the joint pin is not threaded. The fact that the entire pin is not threaded gives it the "quick release" attribute--it doesn't take as long to screw it on or off since there aren't as many threads.

In many (all?) quick release joints, the unthreaded portion of the pin fits into an unthreaded portion of the shaft insert. This gives the joint lateral stability at that point. I suppose that a regular (i.e. not quick-release) 5/16 x 18 shaft would thread onto your Viking butt, but it would not mate well with the non-threaded portion of the pin. You should definitely stick with a shaft with a quick-release insert.

Also, by the way, all cues are not created equal as to joint diameter. If you're buying a shaft yourself, as opposed to sending your butt to someone and having a shaft fitted to it, you should invest in a cheap set of digital calipers. Then measure the joint right at the pin, and specify that joint diameter on a new shaft.
 
brechbt said:
Here's a picture of the Viking quick release joint. Notice that the end of the joint pin is not threaded. The fact that the entire pin is not threaded gives it the "quick release" attribute--it doesn't take as long to screw it on or off since there aren't as many threads.

In many (all?) quick release joints, the unthreaded portion of the pin fits into an unthreaded portion of the shaft insert. This gives the joint lateral stability at that point. I suppose that a regular (i.e. not quick-release) 5/16 x 18 shaft would thread onto your Viking butt, but it would not mate well with the non-threaded portion of the pin. You should definitely stick with a shaft with a quick-release insert.

Also, by the way, all cues are not created equal as to joint diameter. If you're buying a shaft yourself, as opposed to sending your butt to someone and having a shaft fitted to it, you should invest in a cheap set of digital calipers. Then measure the joint right at the pin, and specify that joint diameter on a new shaft.
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Thanks, thats some good info there to keep in mind. it seems like the qr system really limits the possibilities as far as shafts go. I assume that most after market shafts have the qr as an option for the shafts.
 
Total_Chaos13 said:
I'm sure this is a newb question, but i tried the search but didn't find anything useful. It was probably more me not knowing what exactly to search as you have to ask the right question to get the right answer. So here's a few questions.


Why so many different sizes and threads for pins and joints?
Because for different applications, there are different sizes needed, and those differing applications produce different results.

How in the world can you tell them apart??
You have to measure the diameter of the pin as in 3/8, or 5/16 and count the number of threads per inch, except for pins like the Uni-Loc QR.

I have a viking g series cue and have no idea what the thread size is, I know its the viking quick release but that doesn't tell me anything. I sometimes look though the selling/wanted section and see all kind of shafts for sell but have no idea if it will fit my cue.

Then you see different joint material. I'm assuming that the joint material will affect the hit of the cue. Would to identical cues weighted the same with only different joints have vastly different feels to them?
It depends on what type of material, and no, I wouldn't say vast differences, subtle differences.

I am thinking about getting another shaft for my cue. One i can try different tips on but not mess up what i have and then not have a tip. I like the lepro tip on my viking but I don't love it, so I would be great to have another shaft to try some different tips on until I find one I love. Plus i would also like to try a ld shaft as well. I see great deals on shafts here that wold be perfect to buy and try and then if I don't like I can resell here and pass along a great deal to a fellow broad member.
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Good luck. You have a long yet colorful road ahead of you.
 
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