Placing an order for Southwest

NOSAJ03

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I just finish talking to Mike at Southwest and he had just informed me that the wait for a SW is going to be 6 to 7 years!!!!! Thats insane. I have never heard of anything like that! So I placed my order and now its torture. For all you SW owners out there how long did it take for you to get your cue??

P.s The people at SW are some of the nicest people in the world! Mike was awesome!!
 
A friend of mine ordered one years and was supposed to get his TWO years ago.
Try ordering a Barry Szambotti. You can't.
 
Geez.........I thought the 3 year wait back when I ordered mine was tough!

7 Years! Look at it as a strong investment...........because in 7 years your paying the price for it 7 years ago. Automatic profit.

And like you NOSA.....the one thing I remember about the people at SW was how nice they were. I think they called me a month or so before they were done....just to let me know that the were putting a final cut on my cue and then going to finish it. I think we got 3 cues from them all real close together. Great people there!
 
SW's being collectibles is one of the reasons why I dont mind the wait but its going to be torture. It wont be so bad because Im going to have to wait another year or two for the other cue that Im going to order. That cue will also be worth the wait and will definately be another collectible later on
 
pooltablemech said:
Meanwhile.....here is a SW we can all drool over!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3656800796&category=21212

I know it is on fleabay, but hopefully it is legit.......and if not then maybe someone knows about it...........anyway

That SW is very nice!!!!!!!

Now explain to me the pricing on Sw cues. How come the older ones cost more than a brand new one. I know that there is the collectible aspect but they are initially made by the same people. When Jerry Franklin was alive (God Bless his soul) he wasnt the only making the cues. Now when someone buys a SW that was made when Jerry was alive are they buying it as a collectible or are they buying it as a playing cue. See the real reason why I want a SW is because they make awesome playing cue. Im not really looking to buy a wall hanger. Would it be wrong to play with a Pre-Franklin SW, like playing with a Babe Ruth signed baseball???? Why would anyone pay so much money for a used cue when they can buy a brand new one with the same design for a whole lot less???? I just dont get it
 
SW cues

i work in the billiard supply industry in las vegas. at my store we have 2 SW cues. i don't show them to a lot of people, only the serious one. it took me 5 years to get them and i won't discount the price. when i sell one the person is paying for the luxury of not waiting 7 years. only problems is they don't get to design it. and yes they play great and the folks at SW are fantastic
 
Mine has some battle scars, but a refinish and it will be brand new.......and one of the shafts I have has only hit a few balls.

I think it has to do with when Jerry was alive.....but also the factor of it being an older cue has to do with price too.
 
NOSAJ03 said:
Now explain to me the pricing on Sw cues. How come the older ones cost more than a brand new one. I know that there is the collectible aspect but they are initially made by the same people. When Jerry Franklin was alive (God Bless his soul) he wasnt the only making the cues. Now when someone buys a SW that was made when Jerry was alive are they buying it as a collectible or are they buying it as a playing cue. See the real reason why I want a SW is because they make awesome playing cue. Im not really looking to buy a wall hanger. Would it be wrong to play with a Pre-Franklin SW, like playing with a Babe Ruth signed baseball???? Why would anyone pay so much money for a used cue when they can buy a brand new one with the same design for a whole lot less???? I just dont get it


Fast Replies, why not, I am using mine as a break cue, did that one send shivers down your spine or what. :D
 
fast larry said:
Fast Replies, why not, I am using mine as a break cue, did that one send shivers down your spine or what. I used to break with my Balbuskea, original until somebody tried to rip it off one night. Note tried, almost got a tag on his toe for his effort. Cues are meant to be used and played with, paintings are made to be hung on walls, not cues. :D
 
Some cue experts expect or suspect that Franklin Southwest Cues are now, or soon will be like the Gus Szamboti cues were in the 1990's. Now that just about all of the Szamboti's are in private collections, collectors are focusing on other cues, Franklin era Southwests' to be specific.

As for playability, I bought my Franklin SW in 1995 and never put it down until last year. I would say that 60% of the people who have seen it have offerred to buy it. Though my SW is not fancy, just a simple 6 pointer with a few rings, I always reply that I am only accepting offers over 3500.00. Why? Because it is the finest playing cue that I have ever owned, hit with or seen, and to me as a player, that is priceless. To that end, if somebody actually stepped up to the plate to buy it, I would probably have to decline.

Is it ok to play with such a collectable cue? Though I purchased my SW prior to Jerry's passing, I continued to play with it up until March 2003. I mean really, I bought the cue to play with it, and it still sits in my case today, just in case.

So, what in the world would I possibly replace such a remarkable cue with? Why nothing else than an original Gus Szamboti 4 point, 4 veneer cue. Worth it's weight in gold as both a collectable cue and a playing cue.

And now to make all of the other readers envious. I paid 856.00 for my SW in 1995, and bought it right from the person who ordered it 3 years prior to that date. I still have the original invoice. My partner at the time liked my cue so much, that he laid down his Black Boar and vowed to purchase a SW at the 1996 US Open. He did, buy a brand new Franklin SW at the 1996 US Open for 900.00 cash. By 1997, he stopped playing, and to this day the cue remains sealed in his Centennial Case. He gets offers from buyers who know he has it all the time, but I constantly tell him not to sell it. I tell him to forget he has it for the next 20 years, it'll be worth a fortune.
 
Allow me to stir the pot. SW's are very well made cues but I wasn't at all impressed with the playability of the SW that a friend let me shoot.
 
as to everyone who collects is concerned, it doesnt matter to me. get a good playing cue and go play. ive got two szambotis and play with both of them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,same color veneers, same weight,,,,,, just one has more inlays. they are my break cue and playing cues.................btw another is on the way
 
Southwest cues ...

There are a couple of them locally, and although they looked like a good cue ...

The looks for the money is rather plain ...

And the feel as far as playing with them ...
I like Shurtz's custom cues better, especially for the money ....
(Shurtz's $1800-2000 cues look a lot better than that $3500 Southwest)

and Jacoby may not play quite as well as a Southwest (as a matter of opinion), but they look a lot nicer ...

and yes, Playibility(Balance, feel, hit) is number one with me, and looks are number 2.
 
Yes, their cues are plain. But what you are paying for is like the brand. Some cue's playability may be equal to the SW's but they have'nt got the resale value SW has. The SW cues look simple yet elegant to me. Who does'nt want to own one ? Cheers ...
 
dooziexx said:
NOSA,
Did you have to put any kind of downpayment when you placed the order??

No I didnt need to put down a deposit or anything like that. When I emailed Mrs Franklin about an order she sent me an order form in the reply. In the form it said that there is no deposit needed unless you have some weird off the wall design. When I called to put in the order, Mrs Franklin wasnt there and I spoke to Mike. He said that I wont need a deposit for my order because the design wasnt too weird. But he said that if I want A and B rings then I would need a deposit because he said that they were a pain in the ass for them to do. There was an additional charge for the tulipwood because to find the deep red that they like is really hard.
 
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