Players touching the table with the tip of cue

strmanglr scott said:
You posted a nine minute vid, maybe mark the time the foul occurred?

Amazing how this thread went down the rabbit hole, well, not really, its azb.

I pulled this thread up hoping to see a conversation on tips marking the table. In league this v thing came up last year.

So when a player sets the cue tip behind an object ball, who is to say the tip marked the table? When playing league there are marks all over the cloth.

I've seen players freshly chalk and then do it. It would seem that would leave a mark. I tried it at home and found it difficult to mark the table.

Anyone ever call that foul?
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It was called on a buddy of mine when he used his ferrule's reflection in the OB to "see" the contact point. He was accused of marking the table.

The funny thing is, if anyone has tried this technique of marking the table and using that info in his shot, he'd know it doesn't work or help, but distracts mostly.

If a guy's gonna cheat, at least it would be good to cheat so he wins more, I'd think.


Jeff Livingston
 
Brags said:
The only reason these things are legit is because they haven't been outlawed yet.
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That may be a true statement, but it does not mean what yoi are implying it means.

There is no more evidence it needs to be outlawed, than that it was considered and deemed legal.
 
cardiac kid said:
This thread is right up there for the "dumbest of the year" award. Tapping the cloth with your tip? A ball in hand foul? Really? :rotflmao1: :scratchhead: :outtahere:

Lyn
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Yes, if you actually mark the table w chalk behind the ob, it is a foul. That is in most rules I've read.

1.39Marking the Table
It is a foul if you intentionally mark the table in any way to assist you in executing any shot or future shot. Marking includes the deliberate placement of chalk or any other object at a specific point on a rail or cushion to aid the alignment of a shot, or placing any mark on any part of the table. The foul occurs at the moment you mark the table, regardless of whether you remove the mark or whether a shot is taken.
 
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chefjeff said:
It was called on a buddy of mine when he used his ferrule's reflection in the OB to "see" the contact point. He was accused of marking the table.

The funny thing is, if anyone has tried this technique of marking the table and using that info in his shot, he'd know it doesn't work or help, but distracts mostly.

If a guy's gonna cheat, at least it would be good to cheat so he wins more, I'd think.

Jeff Livingston
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I could see marking the ghost ball spot being helpful.
 
strmanglr scott said:
Yes, if you actually mark the table w chalk behind the ob, it is a foul. That is in most rules I've read.

1.39Marking the Table
It is a foul if you intentionally mark the table in any way to assist you in executing any shot or future shot. Marking includes the deliberate placement of chalk or any other object at a specific point on a rail or cushion to aid the alignment of a shot, or placing any mark on any part of the table. The foul occurs at the moment you mark the table, regardless of whether you remove the mark or whether a shot is taken.
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Yes! So this is a foul then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL5BpjGvKWI&feature=youtu.be&t=9m09s
(for the yt impared azbilliard members...the video will link to the moment of the foul (9:09-9:12)...you may have to wait for the ad to play.)
 
Brags said:
Yes! So this is a foul then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL5BpjGvKWI&feature=youtu.be&t=9m09s
(for the yt impared azbilliard members...the video will link to the moment of the foul (9:09-9:12)...you may have to wait for the ad to play.)
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No, imo that's not a foul. Where's the marking of the table? Just cause the cue moved on the table doesn't mean it's marked.

Your link did take me to the correct time before. I didn't think you were talking about that trivial thing. I thought there was a real attempt at marking to improve aim.
 
Brags, thank you for the laughs...this is great stuff! :grin:

My vote for best zinger so far is the padded walls comment.
 
strmanglr scott said:
No, imo that's not a foul. Where's the marking of the table? Just cause the cue moved on the table doesn't mean it's marked.

Your link did take me to the correct time before. I didn't think you were talking about that trivial thing. I thought there was a real attempt at marking to improve aim.
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Ya but he chalks up...drags the tip along the surface of the table...then chalks up again for the shot.
 
Brags said:
The same reason using the diamonds bothers me...they should be removed. Marking the rails or the table should be a foul.
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The whole reason I play pool instead of Snooker is because I love the diamonds.
As far as aiming aides, I hope we get the chance play someday, I will make your head explode by using CTE.
I suppose talc should be banned too.

The only possible sensible thing you suggested so far was banning jump cues, I would add rack templates to that also. If you learn to use a triangle you shouldnt need a template.
 
chefjeff said:
It was called on a buddy of mine when he used his ferrule's reflection in the OB to "see" the contact point. He was accused of marking the table.

The funny thing is, if anyone has tried this technique of marking the table and using that info in his shot, he'd know it doesn't work or help, but distracts mostly.

If a guy's gonna cheat, at least it would be good to cheat so he wins more, I'd think.


Jeff Livingston
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Only non reflective balls should be allowed, thus eliminating this cheating aid. ;)
 
fastone371 said:
The whole reason I play pool instead of Snooker is because I love the diamonds.
As far as aiming aides, I hope we get the chance play someday, I will make your head explode by using CTE.
I suppose talc should be banned too.

The only possible sensible thing you suggested so far was banning jump cues, I would add rack templates to that also. If you learn to use a triangle you shouldnt need a template.
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LOL cte...that's like comparing me (Picasso) to somebody using paint by numbers.
 
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fastone371 said:
The whole reason I play pool instead of Snooker is because I love the diamonds.
As far as aiming aides, I hope we get the chance play someday, I will make your head explode by using CTE.
I suppose talc should be banned too.

The only possible sensible thing you suggested so far was banning jump cues, I would add rack templates to that also. If you learn to use a triangle you shouldnt need a template.
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I like rack templates... I agree with Corey...should be able to soft break and run a whole set...no alternating break. If one player doesn't get a turn, then he gets one turn to run the set and force a tiebreaker.

Yes, Talc should be banned.
https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/talcum-powder-and-cancer.html
 
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Last time I heard something like this, guy told me Straight Pool is really 8 ball with no kiss shots, no bank shots, and no combinations. I laughed 'til I cried!
 
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