Playing 9 ball tournament dilemma?

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Blitzface

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In a recent 9 ball tournament. At the end of the run I pocketed the nine, my opponent takes apart his cue, right afterward I stopped the cue ball
from hitting the rail. He called foul as I stopped the cueball from possibly scratching ( which it wasn't). I explained that once he broke his cue, the game was over. The admin stated we were both in fault and had to replay the rack...... Do YOU agree with the Admin? Appreciate any feedback!
Regds,"blitzface"
 
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No, sounds like a nit to me. I dont like the 'break your cue game is over' argument either. If it was as you described not anywhere near scratching I think this guy is a nit. admin would have to post rules about this to be very clear. I assume they were not clear as most local tournaments are for FUN and not to pay the rent.
 
Blitzface said:
In a recent 9 ball tournament. At the end of the run I pocketed the nine, my opponent takes apart his cue, right afterward I stopped the cue ball
from hitting the rail. He called foul as I stopped the cueball from possibly scratching ( which it wasn't). I explained that once he broke his cue, the game was over. The admin stated we were both in fault and had to replay the rack...... Do YOU agree with the Admin? Appreciate any feedback!
Regds,"blitzface"
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Had the ball scratched the unscrewer still loses so the director is a pussy.
 
Blitzface said:
In a recent 9 ball tournament. At the end of the run I pocketed the nine, my opponent takes apart his cue, right afterward I stopped the cue ball
from hitting the rail. He called foul as I stopped the cueball from possibly scratching ( which it wasn't). I explained that once he broke his cue, the game was over. The admin stated we were both in fault and had to replay the rack...... Do YOU agree with the Admin? Appreciate any feedback!
Regds,"blitzface"
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You're in a tournament, you adhere to the rules or what officials decide.
Pros are also prone to loose behavior, it seems: https://www.youtube.com/live/595CYD9RT5w?feature=share&t=755

Just don't touch anything while balls are moving. Ever.

Also, I don't think that the state of an opponent's playing equipment has any influence on the state of the match. A dialogue is needed, where the give-up is made clear. Maybe he wanted to clean the joint, who knows. edit: I stand corrected, official (WPA etc) rules of play clearly state it as a concession to unscrew your playing cue.

PS: I hope you didn't lose the match because of this....!
 
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pt109 said:
If I was running the tournament, match is over when you take your cue apart, unless changing shafts is declared.
But Blitz, you have to ask yourself, why the hell would you touch the balls?
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I'm with stupid...

You opened that door for your opponent, for what benefit?
 
Blitzface said:
In a recent 9 ball tournament. At the end of the run I pocketed the nine, my opponent takes apart his cue, right afterward I stopped the cue ball
from hitting the rail. He called foul as I stopped the cueball from possibly scratching ( which it wasn't). I explained that once he broke his cue, the game was over. The admin stated we were both in fault and had to replay the rack...... Do YOU agree with the Admin? Appreciate any feedback!
Regds,"blitzface"
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Bad call by the TD, but to be honest, sounds like there was no reason for you to touch the rolling cue ball.
 
How about this one? Buddy was playing and the girl he was playing sunk the 9 and then the white went in. So he just started taking the balls out the pocket. She called a foul and got a decision of ball in hand on the 9. Probably this is the correct rule but how cheap a move is that?
 
Monti said:
How about this one? Buddy was playing and the girl he was playing sunk the 9 and then the white went in. So he just started taking the balls out the pocket. She called a foul and got a decision of ball in hand on the 9. Probably this is the correct rule but how cheap a move is that?
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Yes, a nit move on her part, but even a pro like Buddy Hall should not just make the assumption that his opponent would concede the game at that point, especially if his opponent is not a pro player.
 
As a tournament director my response would be...

Okay guys. In good sporting manner, these situations are not supposed to come up. As a tournament director I get to see it all and this will be one of those stories for my wife. Since it is that kind of situation, you're getting a lecture and then you're getting my ruling.

You can watch the best, most respected players in pool play each other in an action match and they give each other respect. Sometimes them might rack up balls before they are supposed to and if it has no impact on the outcome they don't even think to call each other out on it. They tend to do it to just keep things moving. They stay in the spirit of the moment. Nitpicking the rules to steal a win from your opponent can give you a negative reputation and you're going to have to look yourself in the mirror before playing those cards. But once I get pulled in, I do have to make my judgments by the book. For touching a moving ball, I would have ruled a foul and given ball in hand and spotted the 9. However, breaking down your stick before that occurred is conceding. So no foul occurred because the game was already over.
 
Monti said:
How about this one? Buddy was playing and the girl he was playing sunk the 9 and then the white went in. So he just started taking the balls out the pocket. She called a foul and got a decision of ball in hand on the 9. Probably this is the correct rule but how cheap a move is that?
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So he just assumed that she would have conceded the 9-ball with ball in hand? Were they doing that before? Not everyone does that. Don't think I would have called this a foul but she could have told him to shoot the 9.
 
ChrisinNC said:
Yes, a nit move on her part, but even a pro like Buddy Hall should not just make the assumption that his opponent would concede the game at that point, especially if his opponent is not a pro player.
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IF the cb was rolling towards a pocket MAYBE but if it was clearly rolling towards the rail this is truly a nitty move.
 
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