Playing different table sizes

mullyman said:
Yeah, I can see what you're trying to say here but c'mon, if he's seeing the angles that poorly then he needs to find another hobby. I'm guessing the original poster is jawing the pocket or just hitting outside of it on the big tables. It's the extra distance.
MULLY

If you aim by "feel", it can easily throw off your game. I can guarantee that most of the guys (and gals) on here don't look at too many shots to find the exact contact point and line to the pocket before getting down on the shot. We look at it once, walk up to the shot and get in the stance. You line up where you know from practice the ball will go, but don't look at actuall picture of the shot, just one your mind forms. For the most part, I should add. There are always shots that require scrutiny, and I'm sure there are people who are more methodical than others in how they aproach the shot.
 
Hobbes said:
mullyman, you're right, I'm jogging in the pocket or just hitting the corner. Not so far off that I'm hitting the rails. Maybe it is just the distance...

But do you hit the rail first, then bank into the point to rattle it? Not many pockets will rattle a shot if you hit directly at it.

Watch Bert Kiniser's tape on long cut shots. I think it's 45 maybe? It helped me a ton with making them, and I have shown the same thing to others and they also have told me it helped a lot.
 
Hal Houle
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A good stroke is "Key"

Stan Shuffett's response to me on table size a year ago was "Stroke doesn't care about table size". I have recently completed 2 days of instruction with Stan (2 weeks ago). All I can say right now is, WOW! I was going to wait for a month to practice the techniques that he taught me before posting anything, but my game is already improving rapidly. I was unaware of the flaws in my stroke and the flaws in my knowledge of the game. Stan is a class act and I highly, highly recommend that you see him. By the way, Hal is right. What he wants to teach you works. Just go to him with an open mind and a willingness to learn.
 
I have an 8 foot Gandy table in my home (mainly because my room won't hold a 9' table) and I can shoot pretty good on it. I had a good friend here in town who loved pool as much as I do and he got a 9' Gold Crown set up in his home and when we first started playing on it he torchered me every Friday night. It was a night and day difference playing on his table versus playing on my 8' table.

After a number of Friday nights I started to concentrate on my fundamentals more and adjusted to the longer shots and I got to where I could run out on his table. You'll have to be patient and it will fall in place if you work at it.

James
 
chevybob20...tap, tap, tap! Stan is right!...and so is Hal! :D Good for you, seeking out quality instruction! Just wait until you've practiced a few more months...and it becomes automatic!

Scott Lee
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chevybob20 said:
Stan Shuffett's response to me on table size a year ago was "Stroke doesn't care about table size". I have recently completed 2 days of instruction with Stan (2 weeks ago). All I can say right now is, WOW! I was going to wait for a month to practice the techniques that he taught me before posting anything, but my game is already improving rapidly. I was unaware of the flaws in my stroke and the flaws in my knowledge of the game. Stan is a class act and I highly, highly recommend that you see him. By the way, Hal is right. What he wants to teach you works. Just go to him with an open mind and a willingness to learn.
 
It is possible that the pockets are smaller on the 9 footer than the 8's. I would think that would be the biggest difference. Plus, of course, the longer the shot, the more your error is magnified. Everyone has to play with the same changes though. Increase your concentration and you will eventually get better from playing on the 9 footer.
 
Southpaw said:
So a 45 degree angle on an 8ft isnt a 45 degree angle on a 9 ft? I think that the distance is the biggest factor to consider....most everything else is confidence. JMO.

Southpaw

Southpaw, yes I agree with you 100%. "Angles are different" is the wrong term that I used, should have said angles are more precise. What I was refering to was more like what hang-the-9 was talking about, balls drop easily on the barboxes, the comfort zone of angles and picking your spot on the object ball on the barboxes is not the same comfort zone on the 9's, I think you need to be more precise in shotmaking on the 9's. JMO.
 
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Just an interesting geometric comparison.

A 7' Valley Dynamo's playing area is 38" x 76"

A 9' GC playing area is 50" x 100"


If you take the playing area of a 9' table, and shrink everything in exact proportions to the same playing area of a 7' table, you would end up with the following.

5" pockets would shrink down to 3.8" pocket (5" x .76)

2 1/4" balls would shrink down to 1.71" balls. (2.25" x .76)

If you do it the other way around it's pretty amusing. If you take everything on a typical barbox table, and multiply it by 1.32 (100/76) proportionally up to the same playing area size as a nine foot table, you would get the following.

5" pockets would be 6.6" pockets. (5" x 1.32)

2 1/4" balls would be 2.97" balls, okay let's just say 3". (2.25" x 1.32)

Does this make sense to anyone else but me? :D
 
word of advice, check the point of contact before you start shooting. I suspect that you got used to the 8 footers that you being to disregard calculating the angle. got no problem adjusting from 9 footers to a barbox.
 
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