Please list Techniques/Ways players use for a successful shot

Piith

Piith,
Is a natural alternative or method that bears no description, has no protocol, pre-shot, shot routine, stroke routine, defined methodology, systemology or technique. Those that use it can't describe it and it comes in no instructional format of any kind.

This sounds like: We don't need no education to me. I would dare say another satisfied customer of the complicated systemology concept to playing pool or a cry to arms to a side that believes in the force that to date has been totally undescribed yet is believed in to be preferable and I have to wonder if this Piith system has made it easier for people to excel by not having any instructional basis whatsoever or is it just an outcry against the word System that has come to mean something other than a way to organize the art of shot making.

It might be that someone overcomplicated the process and at some point the word System became a dirty word and now lends to the idea that its use is associated with something, unnatural.

jordan23042000 said:
PIITH is the nuts. Where can I pre order the dvd. PUT IT IN THE HOLE!!


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336Robin said:
Piith,
Is a natural alternative or method that bears no description, has no protocol, pre-shot, shot routine, stroke routine, defined methodology, systemology or technique. Those that use it can't describe it and it comes in no instructional format of any kind.

This sounds like: We don't need no education to me. I would dare say another satisfied customer of the complicated systemology concept to playing pool or a cry to arms to a side that believes in the force that to date has been totally undescribed yet is believed in to be preferable and I have to wonder if this Piith system has made it easier for people to excel by not having any instructional basis whatsoever or is it just an outcry against the word System that has come to mean something other than a way to organize the art of shot making.

It might be that someone overcomplicated the process and at some point the word System became a dirty word and now lends to the idea that its use is associated with something, unnatural.
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It's clear as you've written a book on aiming that ends with the word "system" what your thoughts are on the subject.

PIITH is a parody created by those that feel, how should I put it, differently about "systems". Nothing more, nothing less.
 
A successful shot can be had, made or miss, IF your method (I call it a Recipe, as that is a more integrated term) has provisions in it for successfully handling misses, as well as makes.

It's not just the pre-shot or the shot, but also the post-shot that directs the learning process.


Jeff Livingston
 
Parody

Bank it said:
It's clear as you've written a book on aiming that ends with the word "system" what your thoughts are on the subject.

PIITH is a parody created by those that feel, how should I put it, differently about "systems". Nothing more, nothing less.
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Parody, I like that way of looking at it, thanks I needed that. I still think the word system has gotten beaten up and there no way Im reusing that word again that's for sure.
 
Here is my two cents on the word system & perhaps why it has a 'bad' connotation here on AZB.

The word system has been associated with an aiming method that has been asserted to be an objective system. As such it would be a plug & play, here it is, follow the steps & you will be pocketing balls quicker than flies find crap.

That does not exist, never has, & probably never will.

But, that assertion tends to take away what it is that is obtained through the hard work of HAMB & the artistry that comes that process. Is it learning or is it accepting a revelation of pure knowledge?

HAMB yields a 'process' of see the ball, see the pocket, drop down & shoot it, & it goes into the pocket. It's a 'beautiful' thing to see when one that has gone through the process of HAMB. It's as though there is no thinking about anything. It's as though one has the power to will the balls into the pockets. It's probably the closest thing to being in The Zone that one can get & still be on the conscious side of that with what amounts to a limited amount of focus.

The product of the HAMB process results in an artistry while a system results in a mechanical contrivance that to my knowledge has never yielded a performance of the beauty of what the HAMB process has.

They are two totally different animals. HAMB is like a Gazelle running through a grass field & jumping over whatever is in the way while a system is more like a bulldozer negotiating the same terrain.

When one touts the benefit of systems, they are diminishing the beauty of the results of the HAMB process. At least that is how I think a HAMB process guy might see it.

Now all that said, That does not mean that one did not use some form of method or methods when going through the HAMB process in order to gain that ability to play beautifully. It just means that method or methods have been replaced with a pure knowledge of just see the ball, pick & see a pocket, & then drop down & stroke it so the ball goes into the pocket. It is sort of the manifestation of one's will... or the exhibition of pure knowledge.

Note that I did not say that one is still subconsciously using any method. That is because there is nothing left of any method or groups of methods that is being employed on any conscious level & we do not know what goes on in the subconscious realm.

I think that may be where all true knowledge resides & we merely access it consciously at times & at others times we just let it inadvertently influence our conscious thoughts & actions that is not based on pure knowledge.

Supposed methods & systems are not pure knowledge & have holes where the method or system must be modified, adapted, adjusted, or whatever for a successful shot to result. They are man made contrivances.

There is no need for those when the pure knowledge of the HAMB process is on display & it is a beautiful thing to watch even if for only a few shots at a time. One might now ask well then why does any HAMB guy or gal ever miss? That maybe because they close the door that accesses that pure knowledge by having thoughts that they should not be having.

I guess that is more like a nickels worth of food for thought.
 
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★ System ★ Method ★ Technique

As I mentioned earlier, I am curious as to the difference between a "method" and a "system".

There are many things that you must utilize to play at a high level. Not sure if you are looking for things that will help you to obtain better consistency but a few of them are:

★ PAY ATTENTION (to everything at the table)

★ KEEP BODY RELAXED (it performs better this way)

★ CONTROL WHAT YOU THINK and when you think. There is a time to think and a time to "Let 'er rip". (JB)

★ DECISION & PLANNING TIME: Think in words.

★ EXECUTION TIME: Think in pictures instead of words.

JoeyA


accustatsfan said:
Different threads have been saying fundamentals and systems are less important only methods are important.

To fire an accurate shot with a firearm (providing you have a reliable firearm) you have to align the sights on target and pull, press or squeeze the trigger without disturbing the sight alignment on target. Everything else you are doing are techniques/ways to help you accomplish this.

In pool you have to be lined up on your shot and bring the cue forward in a straight line through the cueball.

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Absolutely

JoeyA said:
As I mentioned earlier, I am curious as to the difference between a "method" and a "system".

There are many things that you must utilize to play at a high level. Not sure if you are looking for things that will help you to obtain better consistency but a few of them are:

★ PAY ATTENTION (to everything at the table)

★ KEEP BODY RELAXED (it performs better this way)

★ CONTROL WHAT YOU THINK and when you think. There is a time to think and a time to "Let 'er rip". (JB)

★ DECISION & PLANNING TIME: Think in words.

★ EXECUTION TIME: Think in pictures instead of words.

JoeyA
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Spot on there. I cant tell you the times I get to the shot, even a really hard shot with the promise that if you miss it that you are selling out the farm and I know ok here is the only chance I have to not get beaten that Ive been able to summon up previous experiences based on sight pictures I know to be true on shots and on banks where Ive been able to calmly come with something. Whatever gets you to the point where you know that youre right as long as it helps you create those picture memories, that's when you are onto the real stuff. I don't tend to prescribe to the pure version of hamb as some define it when I know a little more direction into the process will put you right on those picture memories and allow you to learn to feel the situation at a higher level. That level would be where you know how you do what you do and your feel is more involved in how you learn to deliver the cue ball.
 
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Bank it said:
It's clear as you've written a book on aiming that ends with the word "system" what your thoughts are on the subject.

PIITH is a parody created by those that feel, how should I put it, differently about "systems". Nothing more, nothing less.
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It's not a parody. It's improved my game threefold. When I get out of stroke I even say put it in the hole out loud


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