Pocket reject

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My table will reject a ball hit dead center into a corner pocket with medium speed. I am looking for a fix (other than replacing the pockets). I have tried adding a variety of cushioning pieces to the pockets with some success but they are not actually designed for the purpose. Does anyone know if there is a "pocket dampener" product designed for this purpose? I see rubber pocket liners but they look like replacement pockets for coin op tables. I am looking for a deadening effect.
 
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skipbales said:
My table will reject a ball hit dead center into a corner pocket with medium speed. I am looking for a fix (other than replacing the pockets). I have tried adding a variety of cushioning pieces to the pockets with some success but they are not actually designed for the purpose. Does anyone know if there is a "pocket dampener" product designed for this purpose? I see rubber pocket liners but they look like replacement pockets for coin op tables. I am looking for a deadening effect.
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The pocket shelf is to close to the back of the pocket and or the pocket has no downward angle to it is my opinion...my old cheap table did the same thing.
 
Shughes13 said:
The pocket shelf is to close to the back of the pocket and or the pocket has no downward angle to it is my opinion...my old cheap table did the same thing.
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Yes. I believe that is the cause. My question is how can I fix it? I can not bend the pockets, they are way to strong. Probably steel wrapped in leather. They don't seem to be adjustable in any way. My initial thought was to line the top section with a cushioning material and I have had limited success doing that. The other possibility is to add pocket liners. The "rubber" pocket liners I have seen appear to be stiff rubber used in coin operated tables. If they were very soft or shaped to deflect down something like that might work.

I am looking for ideas.
 
The only way to fix a piss poor design like the pockets on your Beach table is to pull the rails off, plug the pocket iron mounting holes, then re drill them moving the pockets further back in the rails, and just a little higher up....that is the correct fix like it or not, anything short of that won't change a thing.
 
That's what I was going to say.....like I said my cheap table with poor pocket design did the same thing, a lot of times when I would hit a draw in the the corner pockets the over spin on the object ball would always hit the back and pop out back on the table.....I got to frustrated with it and bought a GC IV. Best decision of my life and now I can hit balls as hard as I want and the pockets just eat them up. My advice is buy a real table or just deal with it man, I know it sucks.
 
Another problem that it could be is the inner shield is too tight and it acts like a spring when the balls hit. You may want to try to soften the leather on the inner shield or make sure the pocket net isn't pulled to tight. You'll problem need to replace those pockets or re-drill the hole.
 
Donny Wessels said:
Another problem that it could be is the inner shield is too tight and it acts like a spring when the balls hit. You may want to try to soften the leather on the inner shield or make sure the pocket net isn't pulled to tight. You'll problem need to replace those pockets or re-drill the hole.
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My friend's Olhausen does the same thing. The ball contacts to back at the top section and bounces straight back. It is fine if it isn't an exact direct hit from straight on. It doesn't seem to do it if hit hard or soft, only medium from dead straight. The top ridge of the pocket is very hard, like steel wrapped in leather. The ball never drops at all, it springs straight back. With less speed it drops and with more it compresses the leather and drops.

That is why I was looking to cushion that ridge or put a insert in the pocket. It is not an every shot thing it is a 3-5 times a day thing.
 
Inexpensive fix

In case someone else experiences the same problem and doesn't want to spend a few hundred dollars fixing what is mostly a small annoyance, here is what worked.

3/4" Self stick foam tape, normally use to seal around doors. I cut it and trimmed around the inside of each pocket, covering the leather portion up to the cloth only. Trimmed the foam at an angle to avoid a square blunt edge.

Now the pockets don't reject no matter how hard or soft or direct the ball hits the back of the pocket. The cushioning effect drives the ball straight down into the pocket. The gray color even goes well with the dark leather of my pockets and since it is kind of on the underside it looks pretty "built in" so it looks pretty good too.

I am not a purist here, just wanted it to work. There is no substitute for a professional fix but this worked for me and possibly could work for someone else.
 
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