Pockets on 9' Wilhem-Saunier tables

leto1776

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Anyone have experience playing on them? These tables seem to rattle a lot of shots that would go in on other tables. My 8-ball team plays out of a club that has one, and experience the same thing at another club with a Saunier-Wilhem 9' table. Have not experienced it on a 8' table I've played on by the same company.

Is the the angle? The shelf depth? I know they're not "tight" in the traditional sense, as shown in the pic below:

 

leto1776

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Holy crap that's a deep shelf, lol. I'm not much for the old style tables with the narrow rails but I'd own one like that. Imagine tightening the pockets to 4 or 4 1/4" and using it for one pocket. :)

Yeah, they rattle balls like crazy. Trying to play straight pool on it is certainly teaching me the virtues of patience, lol
 

pt109

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Looks like the shims have slipped a little.....
...but more important is the way the jaws are under-cut....
...if the angle is too straight up and down, the ball goes up when it hits the jaws.

I've played on 5.25 inch pockets that wouldn't take a ball with speed down the rail.
 

leto1776

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Well, the table was supposed to have been recovered and re-cushioned this past week. I'll try to get down and find out.
 

tedantle

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Well it appears you need some TLC from a good table Mechanic. It looks like a beautiful old table with character. There is a whole formula for cushion angle & pocket angle. Real King Cobra refurbished and rebuilt my rails on my GCIII - IV. It is a real science. Sounds like leto1776 has a handle on it. Check out the Table Mechanic forum if you need more help.
 
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