point question
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Show some examples. I'm not sure what you mean and I'm sure others will wonder too.
Thanks
Thanks
I think what you are referring to in the first veneer is called a recut point. That piece of wood does not start out as a veneer, but is a solid piece of wood glued into the point cavity. It is turned round an another v point cavity is cut on top of it to accept more point wood.
Alan
Alan
dave sutton
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flatbottom points. they are cut in cnc like an inlay instead of a vgroove. i guess some believe by keeping much of the center of the cue in tact its stronger then a splice. i feel the opposite.
dave sutton
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they are called flatbottom points. like the traditional wedge points are called v groove points
you never see the bottoms. the wrap covers the bottom of the inlay
you never see the bottoms. the wrap covers the bottom of the inlay
bandido said:
Maybe I can get his question across?
What the OP is asking:
There are several cuemakers, like Gina and JossWest to name two, who use what look like "traditional" v- groove points, wrapped in spliced veneers- AND the outermost veneer (often black in color) is rounded at the top- making it look VERY similar to being CNC'd- and maybe it or all of them are?
The question;
WHY? and ....HOW?
Sheldon has shown in the past- what looked to be "spliced" veneers that were actually "flat-bottomed" (CNC'd) made to come together to a point- giving the viewer an illusion of "traditional" v-groove points wrapped in spliced / pointed veneers.
Again, HOW and WHY do these guys do this?
Hope this helps
~Chris
It is the machining process. A round cutter cannot cut a sharp end with flat bottom inlay. The inside points are cut up the middle in some cases giving two indential pieces to be laid in side by side, so they can remain sharp, but the outside veneer is going into a pocket with a round end so they round the outside veneer off to match the pocket.puckdaddy said:
Poulos Cues said:Maybe I can get his question across?
What the OP is asking:
There are several cuemakers, like Gina and JossWest to name two, who use what look like "traditional" v- groove points, wrapped in spliced veneers- AND the outermost veneer (often black in color) is rounded at the top- making it look VERY similar to being CNC'd- and maybe it or all of them are?
The question;
WHY? and ....HOW?
Sheldon has shown in the past- what looked to be "spliced" veneers that were actually "flat-bottomed" (CNC'd) made to come together to a point- giving the viewer an illusion of "traditional" v-groove points wrapped in spliced / pointed veneers.
Again, HOW and WHY do these guys do this?
Hope this helps
~Chris
????? :lol: In posts previous to mine, everyone already mentioned cnc'd and flat bottomed. So doesn't that seem to be the agreed upon construction method? Or the HOW?
I think you didn't like my explanation for the "WHY". To explain to you without the earlier subtleness. It's a shortcut or a "cheat" way of doing flat inlay points.
Same as in the Falcon youTube video. Same system (poured black-tinted epoxy)for the part of the point that shows closest to the forearm material just different inlay inside. In the OPs example, spliced looking points.
Flat inlayed veneered-Vspliced-looking points is how points have always been done here in the Philippines (they do hand cut the cavity to get the pointy ends unlike whats being questioned here) until I showed them how to do V-grooved, in 1997, using the router.:grin:
Do you also want to know the perils of hand-cutting to get the pointy end? The #1 reason why the maker is pushed to decide on doing this outside point with a cnc?
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Do you also want to know the perils of hand-cutting to get the pointy end? The #1 reason why the maker is pushed to decide on doing this outside point with a cnc?
Insanity or eye stress?
:grin:
Insanity or eye stress?
:grin: