Pool Cue Identification Help

[ideologist]

So this is the first time anyone has attached a date to that Bakelite and brass joint other than WWII. Any additional info you can provide around that timing?

What do you mean by "bakelite and brass joint"?

 

[Cuebuddy]

Not sure if it was done by Rambow, I am no expert.
I have seen a few of his cues and many had a thin Ivory ring. He did use a slotted butt plate screw on many of his cues, like that one.
I always wondered if he would choose the Master Stroke blanks?
Are you a member of Facebook?

 

[Benelli]

What do you mean by "bakelite and brass joint"?

That joint material is not plastic it's Bakelite and inside there is a inner brass sleave to reinforce it.

You can see it in the photos

 

[sbrownn]

I'm bubbling this old thread back up because I recently purchased a second cue that has a lot in common with the one I originally posted in this thread.

First, the Renaissance wax recommendation was a homerun and I used it to clean the cue slowly over time and have come to appreciate it more and more every day. It will stay just the way it is so thanks for all the feedback

Second lets take a look at this new cue:
WWII BBC joint, check. Custom conversion of a stock cue, check. Ivory ferrule, nameplate, and Rambow ring, check. Stunningly beautiful cue, check.

I figured I would post some picks as a reference between the two cues.

Feel pretty strongly this is a Rambow conversion since that ring was never natively on this style of cue and that is signature touch.

Thoughts?

Post some pictures of the first cue after the r-wax treatment? Curious what other restoration tips there are for the ferrule, joint and wrap?

 

[Benelli]

Not sure if it was done by Rambow, I am no expert.
I have seen a few of his cues and many had a thin Ivory ring. He did use a slotted butt plate screw on many of his cues, like that one.
I always wondered if he would choose the Master Stroke blanks?
Are you a member of Facebook?

He absolutely used Master Strokes, here is a three-cue set he made for a family and yes I'm on FB and member of lots of groups

 

[Cuebuddy]

He absolutely used Master Strokes, here is a three-cue set he made for a family and yes I'm on FB and member of lots of groups

Fantastic collection. I do not have any but have had the chance to play with a couple. I was looking at the HR collector group on Facebook a few weeks ago, but it sounds like you already knew about that.

 

[Benelli]

Fantastic collection. I do not have any but have had the chance to play with a couple. I was looking at the HR collector group on Facebook a few weeks ago, but it sounds like you already knew about that.

I am in fact not a member, but I did just ask to join! Thanks for the heads-up!

 

[ideologist]

That joint material is not plastic it's Bakelite and inside there is a inner brass sleave to reinforce it.

You can see it in the photos

That is wood, not brass. It is sleeved over wood

 

[Hungarian]

Ivory ring that showed up at the bottom of Willie Hoppe Professionals in the in the 40's through the early 50's attributed to Herman Rambow.

I've always called it a Hoppe ring. Good to know

 

[Cuebuddy]

I am in fact not a member, but I did just ask to join! Thanks for the heads-up!

You bet.
One of the cues on that page has a very similar looking joint. It is on a butterfly cue.

 

[Benelli]

I've always called it a Hoppe ring. Good to know

Most people do.

Kind of comes down to where you fall in your appreciation of Rambow and his work.

 

[ideologist]

Most people do.

Kind of comes down to where you fall in your appreciation of Rambow and his work.

That's because it wasn't a standard adornment until the Willie Hoppe Professional model

 

[maha]

brunswick custom or rambow. or under his work there.
rambow didnt sign most of his cues. that came later.
good find. dont sell or refinsh ever.

 

[Benelli]

.dont sell or refinsh ever.

Words to live by... I've only been collecting cues for three years now and until yesterday not a single one has left my collection.

I gave one away yesterday, a Lucasi I got super cheap, no real loss but I miss her all the same.

 

[jasonlaus]

A couple things pop out when looking at this cue: one the point appears to have a line of darker wood just below the dot inlay. I wonder if all four points are like that which would indicate that the cue may have had a wrap prior to the leather ( making the cue much more Rambow with shorter points). There is also what appears to be 2 veneers right at the buttcap which may help further identify it.

Then that area would have been cut down for the wrap and it's not.