Pool hall Junkies
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Wow! I haven't seen it yet. There were quite a few posts about this film right after it was released and the word then was that it was a poorly produced film. You guys have convinced me to take a look. I like Walken and Palminteri. I've seen them in a lot of movies and they've always been good. Walken can get way out there sometimes but I usually like him anyway. Palminteri blew me away in that movie, "A Brooklyn Tale".
The movie and acting were not bad. The quality of the movie was poor. They chreaped out on the film would be my guess. Otherwise, we liked it
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I thought the acting was terrible(no exceptions), worst of all was the main character.
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acting and cues
the acting was....lets say subpar......the idea that the #13 guy in the world or country plays with a cuetec and can't even form a correct bridge (IIRC) is absolutely ridiculous.
the acting was....lets say subpar......the idea that the #13 guy in the world or country plays with a cuetec and can't even form a correct bridge (IIRC) is absolutely ridiculous.
The movie did not show how pool really is, for the most part.
The question is, how can pool ever have a good image, if hollywood continues to show the bad side of pool, just to sell tickets? And also go to the extreme within the movie, in some spots?
Most of the folks I know, would not take there wives, grandaughters or mother to see and hear what went on within this movie.
I have a couple of close friends who did rent the movie, and they called me and said to me[no way will we got to a pool-room, if it's anything like that].
Well, this is all they saw, and will never go to a good clean pool-room, because of what hollywood has shown them. So, this bad image is stuck in there minds forever. That's hollywood. Pure, counter-fitt..Sell tickets, no matter who it hurts. Just sell those tickets.
If the image, gets cleaned up by hollowood, we will see a huge influx of folks coming to enjoy our sport.
For years now, pool has had a bad name and taken the worst of it. .
Today, this [old image] is not true for the most part. [there are still some seedie poolhalls out there]. More good ones than bad ones.
If we could have a movie that shows it like it is, and shows how proffesinals are makeing a living from this great sport, things would be differant. This would attract more folks to our great sport.
Along with "NEW"Corporate sponsership. Just think how this could and would,generate new pool-rooms and more players, who can play, that we have never seen?
It's a good clean sport, that can be played and enjoyed by one and all. But, hollywood is only selling tickets. The could care less of how it affects any who make a living from billiards and pool.
The movie, over all, did do more damage to pools image.
Not only is this my opinion, it's also the opinion from several of those who make a living building cues, selling equipment and for the most part, depend on pool and billiards to generate an income for there family's..
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The question is, how can pool ever have a good image, if hollywood continues to show the bad side of pool, just to sell tickets? And also go to the extreme within the movie, in some spots?
Most of the folks I know, would not take there wives, grandaughters or mother to see and hear what went on within this movie.
I have a couple of close friends who did rent the movie, and they called me and said to me[no way will we got to a pool-room, if it's anything like that].
Well, this is all they saw, and will never go to a good clean pool-room, because of what hollywood has shown them. So, this bad image is stuck in there minds forever. That's hollywood. Pure, counter-fitt..Sell tickets, no matter who it hurts. Just sell those tickets.
If the image, gets cleaned up by hollowood, we will see a huge influx of folks coming to enjoy our sport.
For years now, pool has had a bad name and taken the worst of it. .
Today, this [old image] is not true for the most part. [there are still some seedie poolhalls out there]. More good ones than bad ones.
If we could have a movie that shows it like it is, and shows how proffesinals are makeing a living from this great sport, things would be differant. This would attract more folks to our great sport.
Along with "NEW"Corporate sponsership. Just think how this could and would,generate new pool-rooms and more players, who can play, that we have never seen?
It's a good clean sport, that can be played and enjoyed by one and all. But, hollywood is only selling tickets. The could care less of how it affects any who make a living from billiards and pool.
The movie, over all, did do more damage to pools image.
Not only is this my opinion, it's also the opinion from several of those who make a living building cues, selling equipment and for the most part, depend on pool and billiards to generate an income for there family's..
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No matter how much I love pool, I dont think I can say that a movie about pool would be a great film. A documentary about 9-ball or hustlers around the world, or a film about people who play pool to survive and make ends meet might be interesting to watch.
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i love pool and i love Walken, but in my opinion this movie is an absolute piece of garbage.......the acting was horrible, the hustles were lame, and the movie was just overall corny........why Ricky Schroeder?.....wouldnt someone like Corey Deuel have jumped at the chance to play this role.....its not like the name Schroeder is a box office draw........try pullin those ridiculous hustles on someone for anything more than a beer and see if you get away with it......i was completely and thoroughly disappointed........someone said its a pool version of Rounders......not hardly.........oh well.......99 minutes of my life i will never get back
I'm pretty sure it was a Cuetec! I personally liked the movie, great hustles all the way thru the movie and ended it with the all time best hustle I've ever seen.
I honestly dont think that hustle would fly, it would end up in a fight
I honestly dont think that hustle would fly, it would end up in a fight
Ok danny, the first sentence was from zim, the last part was from me, honestly I dont know how to do that posted by stuff, I saw the movie once, it was ok, not very realistic but a nonplayer really couldnt tell.
bleh
Movie was crap. Spoliers throughout this post, you are warned.
I think this movie was terrible. Basically this movie grabbed pieces of the hustler, the color of money, heck even the baltimore bullet and put together one of the most god aweful movies I have ever seen, nevermind pool movies. This movie was just a gimmicked up piece of crap that threw around legendary names and lame neverinamillionyears hustles and cons to try to make the movie "cool". What you get is a retarded movie that is nothing like the real pool scene.
The acting mostly sucked. Even the people who are decent actors had nothing to work with and looked pretty weak. Walken looked embarrased to be in the picture in every scene I saw him in. Main character, Mars? Bleh, he sucked, his big "what, did I stutter?" speech and over the top boy I am cool attitude made me sick. Palmerie or whatever the hell that guys name is was a joke, this guy is so typecast that he himself cannot get out of this kind of role. He did a terrible job. Ricky Schroder? Heck this guy I think did the best job of the bunch but the script and movie sucked so bad he had little to do to make himself look good. Someone handed him a graphite cue in a guitar case and told him "that is your cue". Right there he was in trouble. Even still most of his scenes on the table he was the most realistic of the people with a cold attitude while gambling. With alot better lines and alot more story I think he could have doen well.
The story. Holy hell this sucked. First off their is NO FRICKIN POOL TOUR atm. There was not when they made this movie either. The US Open is NOT $100,000 and it is NOT invite only. There is never "one player that everyone else shoots for" the pool scene these days is deep and there are alot of players that are a tossup in matches. You have Archer, Pagulayan, Reyes, Busta, Immonen, Souquet, and numerous more players that are all equally respected and feared. There is no top dog these days like the movie wanted to make out (and then NEVER said anything about that player again, heck we never even saw the guy take a shot...) Oh, and gotta love the suits. These were some seriously dressed up pool players.
Throwing out names like Boston Shorty, Jersey Red, Bucktooth, ect... like the movie did was just a stupid gimmick trying to say "look how much we know about the history of pool, isn't that cool to have in a movie!". Lame.
When you have just beat someone for $5000 and your backer comes into the can and tells you that you are dicking around and need to up the bet and empty the place it is inept to suddenly find out your backer now has $8000 total on him (after the 5 g's no less). No backer with 8 large on him would be pissing and moaning over only $5000 profit... And if he did then he better not be bitching about the action going to $20,000. The whole relationship between Joe and Mars was forced and totally unbelievable. And if you are truely a great player you are not going to disappear over a single letter thrown in the trash. Dumb forced premise.
Pool gambling is alot more subtle then they made out in this waste of film. The scene in the pool hall with the kids where they are conning people with dumb little hustles and getting into shouting matches with goons who they want to play really made our sport look retarded, it is nothing like that.
This movie knew how weak it was and therefore had to make the side story of Joe running around with his gun and endangering people. Totally unrealistic and completely moronic. OK if you get your ass kicked by a group of drug dealers and you want to get even then you do NOT leave the guy alive if you have a brain in your head. I have never seen a person in real life as stupid as Joe was running around flashing his gun and basically asking to be shot. Climactic ending, well not about pool, it was where Joe gets chased out the door by the group of drug dealers that he had threatened with.... well nothing. Really moronic character.
I could go on, I really could. One could start at the first scene of this movie and go through the entire thing pointing out things that are outright wrong, stupid, or completely not realistic. This was a terrible pool flick and does the opposite of The Color of Money by making pool look like a gangland of thugs, conmen, and whiney little bitches.
Please finish your book Keith so that someone can make it into a movie about how the pool scene actually is.... people have forgotten The Color of Money.
Movie was crap. Spoliers throughout this post, you are warned.
I think this movie was terrible. Basically this movie grabbed pieces of the hustler, the color of money, heck even the baltimore bullet and put together one of the most god aweful movies I have ever seen, nevermind pool movies. This movie was just a gimmicked up piece of crap that threw around legendary names and lame neverinamillionyears hustles and cons to try to make the movie "cool". What you get is a retarded movie that is nothing like the real pool scene.
The acting mostly sucked. Even the people who are decent actors had nothing to work with and looked pretty weak. Walken looked embarrased to be in the picture in every scene I saw him in. Main character, Mars? Bleh, he sucked, his big "what, did I stutter?" speech and over the top boy I am cool attitude made me sick. Palmerie or whatever the hell that guys name is was a joke, this guy is so typecast that he himself cannot get out of this kind of role. He did a terrible job. Ricky Schroder? Heck this guy I think did the best job of the bunch but the script and movie sucked so bad he had little to do to make himself look good. Someone handed him a graphite cue in a guitar case and told him "that is your cue". Right there he was in trouble. Even still most of his scenes on the table he was the most realistic of the people with a cold attitude while gambling. With alot better lines and alot more story I think he could have doen well.
The story. Holy hell this sucked. First off their is NO FRICKIN POOL TOUR atm. There was not when they made this movie either. The US Open is NOT $100,000 and it is NOT invite only. There is never "one player that everyone else shoots for" the pool scene these days is deep and there are alot of players that are a tossup in matches. You have Archer, Pagulayan, Reyes, Busta, Immonen, Souquet, and numerous more players that are all equally respected and feared. There is no top dog these days like the movie wanted to make out (and then NEVER said anything about that player again, heck we never even saw the guy take a shot...) Oh, and gotta love the suits. These were some seriously dressed up pool players.
Throwing out names like Boston Shorty, Jersey Red, Bucktooth, ect... like the movie did was just a stupid gimmick trying to say "look how much we know about the history of pool, isn't that cool to have in a movie!". Lame.
When you have just beat someone for $5000 and your backer comes into the can and tells you that you are dicking around and need to up the bet and empty the place it is inept to suddenly find out your backer now has $8000 total on him (after the 5 g's no less). No backer with 8 large on him would be pissing and moaning over only $5000 profit... And if he did then he better not be bitching about the action going to $20,000. The whole relationship between Joe and Mars was forced and totally unbelievable. And if you are truely a great player you are not going to disappear over a single letter thrown in the trash. Dumb forced premise.
Pool gambling is alot more subtle then they made out in this waste of film. The scene in the pool hall with the kids where they are conning people with dumb little hustles and getting into shouting matches with goons who they want to play really made our sport look retarded, it is nothing like that.
This movie knew how weak it was and therefore had to make the side story of Joe running around with his gun and endangering people. Totally unrealistic and completely moronic. OK if you get your ass kicked by a group of drug dealers and you want to get even then you do NOT leave the guy alive if you have a brain in your head. I have never seen a person in real life as stupid as Joe was running around flashing his gun and basically asking to be shot. Climactic ending, well not about pool, it was where Joe gets chased out the door by the group of drug dealers that he had threatened with.... well nothing. Really moronic character.
I could go on, I really could. One could start at the first scene of this movie and go through the entire thing pointing out things that are outright wrong, stupid, or completely not realistic. This was a terrible pool flick and does the opposite of The Color of Money by making pool look like a gangland of thugs, conmen, and whiney little bitches.
Please finish your book Keith so that someone can make it into a movie about how the pool scene actually is.... people have forgotten The Color of Money.
Days of Thunder....remember this "Nascar" movie? Yeah, no one really criticised it as much as they do "Poolhall Junkies"! Days of Thunder was very believable, yeah right!! There's always unrealistic scenes, slangs or actions in ALL movies. Maybe the road players should do a "Hustlers Reality TV" program, I'm sure that you'll find no mistakes in this film. Every movie has it's ups and downs, at least someone made the effort to make another pool movie. Whether it's negative or positive, at least it exists!
JMHO!
Zim
JMHO!
Zim