Pool is becoming a rich man's sport

18x21 is a big room and that's about what it takes to be comfortable with a table.

Don't I know! I have an architect drawing up a basement expansion to match a main-floor expansion on stilts. It would create a 16x25 space to fit a 9-foot table. All for the svelte price of $80,000 to $100,000. That doesn't count a $10,000 nine-foot Diamond table, either.

And there I was implying on another thread that pool is not a rich man's game (I do have an inexpensive, used Olhausen 7-footer right now).
 
Don't I know! I have an architect drawing up a basement expansion to match a main-floor expansion on stilts. It would create a 16x25 space to fit a 9-foot table. All for the svelte price of $80,000 to $100,000. That doesn't count a $10,000 nine-foot Diamond table, either.

And there I was implying on another thread that pool is not a rich man's game (I do have an inexpensive, used Olhausen 7-footer right now).
Okay, but that's kinda like saying golf is for the rich because of how expensive it is to buy the land and build a course.
 
Okay, but that's kinda like saying golf is for the rich because of how expensive it is to buy the land and build a course.
Yeah, a bit of tongue-in-cheek stuff going on there. But how I wish my house had a better layout. Tons of space in it, just not organized the right way. )-:
 
Yeah, a bit of tongue-in-cheek stuff going on there. But how I wish my house had a better layout. Tons of space in it, just not organized the right way. )-:
I hear you, I have a good practice area with a GC4 in my basement but there are two poles in the way so not so good for matches etc. Glad to have it though.
 
I think I have three or four rooms full of 9’ tables within 30 minutes drive that charge $6 or less to play the whole day. $6/day. One of those rooms does a monthly membership of $25/mo for unlimited play during the day.
Wow, how do they stay in business, unless they are making up for it with food and alcohol purchases from those all day customers?

We are $3/hour per person any time and $8/hr unlimited before 7pm except on weekends, although rarely do our customers take advantage of that.

Our menu prices have nearly tripled in the 27+ years we’ve been open, but our pool table rental prices have stayed the same, to play on some of the best quality tables / cloth / balls they’ll ever play on.

Of course, 90% of our revenue is from food and beverage (no alcohol), and most of our regular customers have never once played pool here.
 
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Well pool have always been for the rich. Just think of the time before pool halls. Nobody can afford to put a big ass table in their homes including today but more so then. The average size of a home was smaller then. We didn’t get the luxury of having 2000 sq ft plus homes to even entertain the idea of a table.

It has basically came full circle. Like I said my place is at $20 per hour. Weekdays? Oh a nice discount of $14 per hour. Yes there are probably cheaper rooms but the cheaper rooms have different clientele at a not-so-good locale.

I can choose no to go and I don’t. My pool fix comes at from weekly tournaments which has also risen to $15. They are thinking of $20 to get more people out. LOL
 
If college or youth institutions are not purchasing billiard tables, then it is for rich people.

Can the wooden pool tables be enhanced to play more like competition equipment?

If they were easier to move and relocate like basketball hoops, volleyball nets, batting nets, soccer nets, all the popular school based sports equipment is highly portable.

Billiards suffers from not being portable.

Track and field: Lets go race any where.
Basketball: Lets practice dribbling or shooting
Football: Toss the pigskin
Soccer: count the touches before dropping
Softball: practice catching the ball
Baseball: practice tracking the fast ball

If billiards has no backer no one is going to play.
Its amazing that billiards became popular in the first place.

Make pool easier to play and make a travel pool kit.
 
I can tell you here in Germany it is nothing like that. Pool is getting younger and younger. Weekly trainig for kids, trainingscamps for kids, youth national teams, etc. No more old creepie people.

When Germany sends international students they compete at everything.

Germany has money and infrastructure to invest. If you did that in America most of the children would quit if the coach or program is not meeting their standards.

It takes more than having the kids sign up or getting them to play young.

They have to be part of the community, meet the people and become part of the organizational structure.

The Germans are technically competent, they can develop more social and leadership skills for their youth group.
 
Then again this could be the bankruptcy model they are using. Since we have very few customers so let’s raise prices to make up for it.

Even the employees at one time had to tell customers what it cost an hour when they didn’t ask. So there would be no surprises at the end and I’ve seen a lot of surprised guests.

This one guy wanted to pay for the entire tab he was with 3 buddies. They drank and played 3 hours. . He pulled out his card to cover it all. Employee says the total is $160. They all looked at each other and then he said we’re all going to split this. He looks at me and tells me they were there for only 3 hours. LOL
 
Wow, how do they stay in business, unless they are making up for it with food and alcohol purchases from those all day customers?

We are $3/hour per person any time and $8/hr unlimited before 7pm except on weekends, although rarely do our customers take advantage of that.

Our menu prices have nearly tripled in the 27+ years we’ve been open, but our pool table rental prices have stayed the same, to play on some of the best quality tables / cloth / balls they’ll ever play on.

Of course, 90% of our revenue is from food and beverage (no alcohol), and most of our regular customers have never once played pool here.
They all do alcohol. No food.
 
This one guy wanted to pay for the entire tab he was with 3 buddies. They drank and played 3 hours. . He pulled out his card to cover it all. Employee says the total is $160. They all looked at each other and then he said we’re all going to split this. He looks at me and tells me they were there for only 3 hours. LOL
I hope they weren’t driving!
 
Look at Vahala from Viking, Lucky From Mcdermott. They are both playable cues for under 200. I'm sure other major brands off the same.

Schmelke cues as well if you want something made in the US.
Look at Vahala from Viking, Lucky From Mcdermott. They are both playable cues for under 200. I'm sure other major brands off the same.

Schmelke cues as well if you want something made in the US.
Look at this Valhalla from Viking!!! Anyone want to go partners?

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Look at Vahala from Viking, Lucky From Mcdermott. They are both playable cues for under 200. I'm sure other major brands off the same.

Schmelke cues as well if you want something made in the US.

sky woodward plays with a cuetec avid in that price range
 
Pool is becoming a rich man's sport.The only people on the mosconi cup seem to have a lot of money and travel alot.The days of playing and travel cheap are over most pro players aren't traveling lack of money .Only the rich seem to be able to travel on the derby city classic the rich with fancy cues playing.The good players aren't traveling because of the lack of money. let's talk
No it isn't. Still one of the least expensive sports. Equipment is provided at a diverse and numerous amount of venues for free or cheap rates. No special clothing needed, no reservations, lots of cheap events to compete in, free instruction and endless amount of high quality matches to watch for free.

To get your own equipment that is PERFECTLY ADEQUATE to win a world championship with you can spend less than $200.

Travel is relatively cheap, motels and airbnbs are cheap, sleeping in your car is a time honored rite of passage for many aspiring pros. And you can get any number of great car beds from amazon for cheap.
 
I regularly see pool tables for free, often with all the lights, balls, cues etc included. I set one up in my living room and it's nice to play a few racks in the evening, Ill go out and play with friends on the weekends. It's cheap and it's so much fun.

a fancy cue is nice to have, sure if it's your thing why not spend on a nice one if you want, but I'm surprised how well a good player can play with even the worst and most crooked cue. I think the main reason the halls are vanishing is because, like with movie theaters or bowling lanes, it is much less popular than it was back in the 50's or 60's.

Now ever kid has a cell phone stuck to his face and can't focus their eyes past 3 feet as a result. They also lack in hand eye coordination due to never really doing much that is physical like building things or fixing things. half the kids cant' even work a hammer or a handsaw properly if they are recently out of high school.

there is something to the fact that many cant' afford houses and are thus forced to live in pigeon coop style apartment buildings, even lots of those do have a games room though. membership to my local public recreation is 40 dollars a year plus 40 if you sign up for the snooker club, they have 4 10' tables and Ive never had to wait at all when I've dropped in.

The teeny 7' diamond tables that some pool players take seriously don't even need big rooms. Those kids tables will fit in an average sized bedroom. you need 5 ' all around for a cue to swing, but if there is less then it's still a fair game.
I had a 7' brunswick portable set up in my kitchen and we had 2 years of almost constant fun. I restored it , replaced cushions and felt and had it up for sale at a moderate price a long time, no takers. that one was free too , I just spent a bit for the supplies, rubber, glue laquer, etc. I figure I spent $400.

going on airline trips , hotels , forget that, I hate getting stuck in airports, I had enough of that through work training courses etc.
 
all the people that i know that like to ski are disappointed this year. They bought their lift passes for the year, They are not cheap nor is the equipment.
Up until this point the ski hills are all closed this year, too warm for snow. it'll change this week but half their season is already behind them and there is no refund if it doesn't snow.
 
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