Pool or Snooker, whose best.

Stroke It Any Way You Want

Phil B. said:
I compare pool players to golfers...They both must have a good stroke and have a sense of finesse. They must also know how to read the layout. I can go on, but it's late...

This is more of a commom sense comparison than what I have read.

GOLFERS USE A SWING, NOT A STROKE.

THERE IS NO GOOD OR BAD STROKE. NICK VARNER HAS THE WORST STROKE IN POOL, BUT HE POCKETS EVERYTHING HE AIMS AT. CALL VARNER ABOUT YOUR THEORY AND HIS BAD STROKES, AND WHAT HE COULD DO ABOUT CHANGING HIS BAD STROKING. THAT WOOULD BE INTERESTING CONVERSATION,TO SAY THE LEAST.
 
Want to know whats really funny. You have a competitive tennis player come to this thread and tell you the same thing I have been telling you and you discredit his opinion because he never competed against pro's. If he had of competed against pro's then I am sure you would discredit him because he never won a major. I think you know damn well that your comparison is garbage and this is why we dont see you trying to actually explain it, you know it is a crap claim but now despite knowing this you refuse to admit you were wrong no matter who comes here and how much experiance they have in the two sports and how much explanation they give you as to why they claim your comparison is flawed. You tell a guy his opinion is meaningless because he has not competed at a high enough level and then instead of supporting your own claim you spend the last couple sentances explaining why you dont like me instead of why PingPong and Tennis are actually a good comparison to Snooker and pool.

Lets see now, do you respond with evidence and facts to support your claim? Or more attacks on Celtic. Odds are the latter if history is any indication.
 
Ok guys, stop arguing already. I have a better example of cross-discipline competing than tennis. It's skiing.

Skiers have four disciplines: slalom, giant-slalom, super G and downhill. Difference between slalom and downhill is huge, but some are able to adapt and win both. Different equipment, huge difference in technique and speed. I'd say that difference is much greater than between pool and snooker.

One American skier began by winning slower disciplines like slalom and giant-slalom, but now is able to win super G and downhill as well. That made him overall world cup winner and best skier in the world today. He is Bode Miller of course.

I think it can be done. Winning both pool and snooker. If they ever equalize the prize money, it will happen someday.
 
Johnson said:
to me, when i say i was a competitive tennis player, that not only meant that i "competed" but that i competed against the top players in my area and won tournaments,





you stated that "not that i was any good" but yet you played ping pong with "another good tennis player" , a lot of why elite athletes are elite athletes is do to their abilities to make adjustments to many different things, and you honestly think that professional tennis players couldn't make the proper adjustments to play ping pong at an extremely high level? i haven't seen a world class tennis player dropping down the millions of dollars of playing tennis to go for the real big bucks of ping pong, just like i haven't seen any world class snooker players dropping down the millions of dollars of playing snooker to take up the real big bucks in playing pool, i think you both missed my point, sorry to be so blunt but nothing really seems to sink in with celtic he's very close minded, and uses illogic instead of logic

So what if I am not at the same level as the big tournament players. I said I wasn't any good because in comparison to a lot of good players, I'm not. I bet I can still beat most of the tennis players on this planet. I bet I still have more experience than you. I listed multiple reasons why the comparison between teh 2 sports is false. You haven't listed one and all you did is try to discredit my opinions based on the fact that I'm not playing pro tennis. You don't know what you're talking about, stop tying to hide it when people expose you of being a pretender.
 
I Disagree Sonia...Sorry

sonia said:
GOLFERS USE A SWING, NOT A STROKE.

THERE IS NO GOOD OR BAD STROKE. NICK VARNER HAS THE WORST STROKE IN POOL, BUT HE POCKETS EVERYTHING HE AIMS AT. CALL VARNER ABOUT YOUR THEORY AND HIS BAD STROKES, AND WHAT HE COULD DO ABOUT CHANGING HIS BAD STROKING. THAT WOOULD BE INTERESTING CONVERSATION,TO SAY THE LEAST.

I think you need a lesson on stroke and follow through...A golfer swings through the ball as a pool player shoots through the object ball. WE and them do not swing/shoot at the ball! Can you hit a long drive by hitting at the ball, or can you hit the rack hard shooting at the ball?? It is all about stroke and follow through. I always though pool players arms are supposed to swing like a pendilum aren't they. ;) IT'S ABOUT BOTH SWING/FOLLOW THROUGH/STROKE.

I have seen worse strokes than Varners
 
A lot of people are trying to see what are the differences or similarities between snooker and pool. Well if you watch snooker carefully and study the settings, you will notice that snooker players only play half the table. They concentrate on where the reds are. You see? So before they reach to hit the colored balls they most likely have won the game, they only go for the high break. While pool, players use the entire table. Before a snooker player win a pool championships, he needs to practice more. Same in pool players, they need to practice snooker more before they can compete. Alex play snooker but never won a top tour yet. They both are totally different dicipline.
 
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SplicedPoints said:
So what if I am not at the same level as the big tournament players. I said I wasn't any good because in comparison to a lot of good players, I'm not. I bet I can still beat most of the tennis players on this planet. I bet I still have more experience than you.


again you say you are no good, and you have more experience than me? experience in losing?


SplicedPoints said:
I listed multiple reasons why the comparison between teh 2 sports is false. You haven't listed one and all you did is try to discredit my opinions based on the fact that I'm not playing pro tennis. You don't know what you're talking about, stop tying to hide it when people expose you of being a pretender.


your main reasoning was that because you and your buddy played ping pong 1 time, and u smacked the balls around like wild gorrilas that tennis players cannot play ping pong, i never mentioned anything about you playing pro tennis or not, and if u read what i said and had a basic understanding of competitive tennis you would of perfectly understood what i was saying and not blown it out of proportion, the only thing that i'm pretending to do is to have an intelligent discussion here, that would take more than just me sitting here talking to myself, and forgive me if i don't make my point when you try to attack what i say with nonsense
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Johnson said:
again you say you are no good, and you have more experience than me? experience in losing?
Oh please, here you go with the personal attacks again. Maybe I was good maybe I was bad, but who cares. I'm not going to brag about how I played the game. Sure, maybe I have more experience losing, because I played a lot and played against good players.
Johnson said:
your main reasoning was that because you and your buddy played ping pong 1 time, and u smacked the balls around like wild gorrilas that tennis players cannot play ping pong,
Go back and read my earlier post again. My MAIN reason wasn't that I played ping pong with another tennis player. My main reason was that the way you hold the racket and the paddle's different, the way the balls react off the racket/paddle's different, the way the balls react off the surfaces of the courts/tables are different, the rules are different, the way you move to play the game's different, the way you apply spin on the balls are different, and the swings are different, and the long list goes on. The games are very different.
Johnson said:
i never mentioned anything about you playing pro tennis or not, and if u read what i said and had a basic understanding of competitive tennis you would of perfectly understood what i was saying and not blown it out of proportion,
Well, I have a basic understanding of compettive tennis (do you?). I understand what you said. You said that tennis and ping pong are comparable. I said it's not, from my experiences with the game. Then you go on discrediting me because you think because I wasn't playing pro then I don't know what I was talking about. I didn't blow anything out of proportion. The comparison was not accurate, I stated my points of views, refuted your claims, and that's it.
Johnson said:
the only thing that i'm pretending to do is to have an intelligent discussion here, that would take more than just me sitting here talking to myself, and forgive me if i don't make my point when you try to attack what i say with nonsense
You sure are pretending to have an intelligence discussion. Try harder. When someone have an intelligent discussion, they admit when they're wrong or they put up a well reasoned response.

This discussion was about pool and not about anything else. This is a total waste of the forum. I won't be responding to any of this kind of time-wasting arguments.
 
SplicedPoints said:
When someone have an intelligent discussion, they admit when they're wrong or they put up a well reasoned response.


thanks for subconsciously admitting you're wrong
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