Pool room for SALE in Atlanta

Snapshot9

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Upscale Billiards and Bar
Location: Georgia > Atlanta
Industry: Food and Beverage > Bars and Taverns
Financials
Asking Price: $198,000
Gross Revenue: $70,000
Business Summary
Upscale Billiards and Bar in great location.
About the Business
Year Established: 1990
Employees: 8 part time
About the Sale
Reason For Selling: Retirement
 
I wonder what pool hall it is.

I've heard Players Billiards (Off Powers Ferry rd) has closed down. It's in a big big money part of town. But you have to compete with the Pool Room not to far away. Now I haven't been there but have heard it was pretty nice.

If somone could find out which pool hall it is then I can usually tell you about it or atleast the area.
 
I'm thinking that revenue number doesnt make sense.
$70k net to the owner possibly? Surely not total revenue for 12 months in an upscale pool/bar.
If this info comes from a business-for-sale website, I have found them notorious for poor information.
 
Business revenue is always lower on paper than it really is.

That also might be company revenue. A buddy of mine looked into buying a bar. It showed the gross revenue for the bar to be $30k. But the owner made $50k. The manager I think 30k. The actual owner was both manager and owner/president. Something like that. So all in all the bar profited the owner $110,000 on paper. That probably doesn't include the cash he hasn't reported.

It was a while since I looked at it but any business basically shows lower numbers than they truly make so they can cheat the tax system. If you don't you won't be a business.

I had a customer who owned many business' that basically explained to me that many business' (Exluding McDonalds and such that need multiple registers) that are small have 2 cash registers. Despite only 1 person works it at a time. 1 cash register shows small sales made in cash only. That cash register and reciepts will never be seen by the government.

Because it is required by law that if you are audited the government gives you a 7 day notice. It's not hard to make a cash register disappear. If you are in a store and see a clean spot on the counter. Then that place is being audited.

From what I do remember when my buddy looked into buying a bar/pool hall. $50k a year for the company is pretty good.



If you are interested in information on the place and find out where it is. PM me and I'll PM you back. I know many pool halls in town including the area.
 
I am in Atlanta

Snapshot9 said:
Upscale Billiards and Bar
Location: Georgia > Atlanta
Industry: Food and Beverage > Bars and Taverns
Financials
Asking Price: $198,000
Gross Revenue: $70,000
Business Summary
Upscale Billiards and Bar in great location.
About the Business
Year Established: 1990
Employees: 8 part time
About the Sale
Reason For Selling: Retirement

Send me more info on this! Though the numbers sound strange !
I am retired :) and would love to get into the business as a new career!
 
whatever. no, revenue is not always lower on paper.
And, it is not necessary to be a cheat to be successful in business.
Anyone that thinks two cash registers is necessary is lining his pocket at our expense.

smittie1984 said:
Business revenue is always lower on paper than it really is

That also might be company revenue. A buddy of mine looked into buying a bar. It showed the gross revenue for the bar to be $30k. But the owner made $50k. The manager I think 30k. The actual owner was both manager and owner/president. Something like that. So all in all the bar profited the owner $110,000 on paper. That probably doesn't include the cash he hasn't reported.

It was a while since I looked at it but any business basically shows lower numbers than they truly make so they can cheat the tax system. If you don't you won't be a business.

I had a customer who owned many business' that basically explained to me that many business' (Exluding McDonalds and such that need multiple registers) that are small have 2 cash registers. Despite only 1 person works it at a time. 1 cash register shows small sales made in cash only. That cash register and reciepts will never be seen by the government.

Because it is required by law that if you are audited the government gives you a 7 day notice. It's not hard to make a cash register disappear. If you are in a store and see a clean spot on the counter. Then that place is being audited.

From what I do remember when my buddy looked into buying a bar/pool hall. $50k a year for the company is pretty good.



If you are interested in information on the place and find out where it is. PM me and I'll PM you back. I know many pool halls in town including the area.
 
Snapshot9 said:
Upscale Billiards and Bar
Location: Georgia > Atlanta
Industry: Food and Beverage > Bars and Taverns
Financials
Asking Price: $198,000
Gross Revenue: $70,000
Business Summary
Upscale Billiards and Bar in great location.
About the Business
Year Established: 1990
Employees: 8 part time
About the Sale
Reason For Selling: Retirement

Your Gross has to be wrong on that.
 
the numbers were the first thing I noticed

The numbers were the first thing I noticed. However "gross" can mean four or five different things, maybe more. Without knowing what gross they are talking about it is meaningless. Total gross would mean the business is almost certainly operating at a substantial loss. Gross before taxes might mean it is doing pretty good especially if that is the business profit after the owner has paid himself and a few family members a salary.

Of course another question is what is the $200K buying. It may be only the name and the right to take over a lot of leases on real estate and equipment or it could be real estate and equipment at a bargain price. Could be anything in between.

All that was really said in the thread starter was pool hall for sale, asking $198K. From there assumptions start. I'll make a quick one, I'm not paying $200K for anything that my CPA can't find is making a substantial profit. The vast bulk of that will need to be covered by tangible property too.

Hu
 
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