Post your high run

VietSoClassic, there a list of upcoming 3C tournament on USBA webpage

http://www.usba.net

Or go here for tournament calender

http://www.usba.net/html/eventcalendar.html

Hopeful we be able to watch some of the Sang Lee Tournament or late night action from CaromTV live webcam.

This information was found on Jim Loy site:

Blomdahl's high run is 24, not in a major tournament. There are several people with higher runs. One of Blomdahl's major claims to fame was for averaging more than two (that is an average of more than two points per inning) for an entire tournament. In Hoppe's days, an average of one was very good. Hoppe once averaged 1.333 for an entire tournament. Now several people have averaged over two, for a whole tournament: Ceulemans, Semih Sayginer (Turkey), Marco Zanetti (Italy), and Jaspers have all done it once. Well, Blomdahl has now done it six times, with the world record average for a tournament of 2.506, in 1995. Three people have averaged five, for an entire game, Blomdahl (50 pts in 10 innings), Caudron (45 pts in 9 innings), and Ceulemans (40 pts in 8 innings). In 2000, Blomdahl made 50 pts in 9 innings (average=5.555...). Sang Lee apparently made 50 pts in 4 innings in a local tournament
 
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after about two months of casual playing and about a month of practicing consistently, 4. But usually I'm thrilled if I pull 2. My runs of 'just frigging missed it' are impressive, though.

I'm curious, Viet, how do you do in 9-ball? How many racks can you run in a row? If you're running higher averages than every world class player on the face of the earth, ever, in 3-C and it's just a sideline for you, I can't imagine what you'd be doing in 9-ball.
 
I can tell you on a good day, I can run 2-3 in a row LOL. I am not that great for most. But when I need to break stuff up... I can by using the 3-rail system.
 
well heres my 50 innings avg 1.74. I got really hot on Inning 19 and started to get tired after Inning 25. I was playing with my friend but he was just there to hit them around in different spots so I could keep going. Everytime I missed I just played from there.

Inning - Pts / Inning - Pts
01 - 3 / 26 - 0
02 - 2 / 27 - 2
03 - 2 / 28 - 1
04 - 1 / 29 - 1
05 - 3 / 30 - 0
06 - 0 / 31 - 0
07 - 2 / 32 - 1
08 - 3 / 33 - 2
09 - 1 / 34 - 4
10 - 3 / 35 - 2
11 - 0 / 36 - 0
12 - 2 / 37 - 1
13 - 5 / 38 - 3
14 - 2 / 39 - 0
15 - 1 / 40 - 1
16 - 1 / 41 - 2
17 - 2 / 42 - 4
18 - 0 / 43 - 3
19 - 1 / 44 - 0
20 - 1 / 45 - 2
21 - 3 / 46 - 0
22 - 2 / 47 - 1
23 - 6 / 48 - 3
24 - 3 / 49 - 2
25 - 3 / 50 - 0

87pts.

I was playing on a Olhausen table 5x10 with worn out Brunswick Cloth
 
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VietSoClassic said:
well heres my 50 innings avg 1.74. I got really hot on Inning 19 and started to get tired after Inning 25. ...
I was playing on a Olhausen table 5x10 with worn out Brunswick Cloth
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I see that you had a 6 in one inning. I think it is only a matter of time and confidence until you get higher runs.

The change to modern tournament equipment will probably take some time for you. The action on some shots is very different on new Simonis or Granito cloth, and some shots that are not possible on your table will be easy on better equipment.
 
So, let me get this right, you've been playing since March 07, so five months, and 3-C is not your main game, and you're posting a 1.7. Then you are the greatest player in the U.S., probably the best player in the world outside of Europe, and even then, before Cuelemans, alot of world champs were won with averages below 1.0. And you're saying that you, playing five months, without professional training or the company of great players, with a rudimentary knowledge of the rules of 3-C and the diamond system, and playing on an old table with worn out cloth, you're posting better than 0.5% than every player in the history of the world.
I respectfully decline to believe it. If you disagree, don't waste your time responding. Enter yourself in the SL tournament in NY - if you play 1.7, you have pretty good odds at winning. actually, you have overwhelming odds at winning any billiard tournament you enter anywhere. Ceulemans won something like 25 world championships with something like a 1.6, so you should take him easy.
 
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So, let me get this right, you've been playing since March 07, so five months, and 3-C is not your main game, and you're posting a 1.7. Then you are the greatest player in the U.S., probably the best player in the world outside of Europe, and even then, before Cuelemans, alot of world champs were won with averages below 1.0. And you're saying that you, playing five months, without professional training or the company of great players, with a rudimentary knowledge of the rules of 3-C and the diamond system, and playing on an old table with worn out cloth, you're posting better than 0.5% than every player in the history of the world.
I respectfully decline to believe it. If you disagree, don't waste your time responding. Enter yourself in the SL tournament in NY - if you play 1.7, you have pretty good odds at winning. actually, you have overwhelming odds at winning any billiard tournament you enter anywhere. Ceulemans won something like 25 world championships with something like a 1.6, so you should take him easy.
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I feel the same thing too wondering how this come around... I thought to them was easy cause they know where to hit the ball. It feels like anyone that has the knowledge of knowing the 3rail diamond system should start jumping into this tournament and try it out. Everytime I make a 2-3 points is fantastic and thinking "Man those pros can run 8-9 in a row is sick," but didn't know it happens sometimes in their match.
 
yeah, it's amazing, almost unbelievable, but I'm not one to doubt something posted on a forum. Check out this writeup of a carom cafe tournament. The total average for the top ten players was 1.653.
'Sizzling', hell, you're runnning better than that a worn out table after playing for just a few months, probably with a warped cue and cracked balls, to boot.

Like I said, stop wasting your time posting on this small timer board - start winning all the world tournaments and get yourself an endorsement deal. I think you'll be unchallenged by any player on earth.

when's that video getting posted?
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http://www.professorqball.com/displaystory.php?RecordID=188
During the final ten-person round robin, Caudron finished with the best record of 7 wins and 2 losses and a grand average of 1.881 and a best game of 3.077. Jaspers, who posted the highest grand average in the final-round of 2.026, suffered five unusual losses and settled for very surprising 6th place. Blomdahl averaged 1.851 for his last nine matches ? falling short of his usual 2.0+ New York performances. The total tournament average for the final ten players was a sizzling 1.653.
 
Robert, you are absolutely right. This game will drive you nuts! As a good example, I ended up winning (luckily) the Southgate Tournament in June. Guess how I played my very first match? I scored 5 points in 35 innings! I looked at the charts afterwards. It was the absolute WORST game of the entire tournament! But guess what? That was the only game I lost. I needed to win the last game of the preliminaries and I averaged 1.333, the best game of the B tournament. Am I bragging? I would love to brag, but the truth of the matter is this: my average for the entire tournament was only around .600. What does that tell you? It means I had a lot of .500 games.

By the way, my high run is just 11. I first picked up a pool cue in 1993 and I played on a 3 -cushion table for the first time in 1996. I quit pool in 2000, and I have been playing seriously for the last 3 years. Of course, I haven't practiced seriously since I took over the secretary position of the USBA, but I am hoping to get back to it soon.

Another example of this "crazy" game is this: I was at Carom Cafe and played a few games and was not playing very well, maybe .500 average.
I left to go to a long island pool room to play with a friend. I was depressed. I was beginning to feel like I would never improve in this stupid game. You know the feeling, I'm sure. When I got there, my friend was late, so I played another guy a 25 point game. Guess what? 25 points in just 8 innings! (3.125) A 7,6,5,4,2,1, and 2 open innings. Unbelievable! I was high as a kite. I felt like I was a professional. I was ready for Blomdahl. When was my friend showing up? I could hardly wait to kick his behind! For the rest of the night, I was back to averaging around .500.
Boy, I was depressed.

And so goes this wonderful, terrible game of 3-cushion!

Jim
 
Dear VietSoClassic,

Are you sure you are not playing the Korean 4-ball game?

Or straight-rail?

Those numbers don't add up, sorry to say.

Or else, maybe you are scoring 4 and missing, but you are not counting the miss. Maybe you are scoring 4 and missing # 5, sitting down, and then missing. That would be 2 innings,not 1 inning.

And if for some reason those numbers are accurate for the game of 3-cushion, as Ira Lee said, I will personally sponsor you wherever you play.

Jim
 
Its not korean 4-ball game.. I hate that game. You sit there for an hour or so waiting for that guy to miss just because all the 3 balls are close together. AND you don't go 3 rails rarely only if both object balls are wide apart.

Thats what I gamble for with some of my friends... we play to 50 points or so, he can make 1 point when he can take his cue ball and hit both balls without rails, BUT everytime I do a 3-rail it counts as 5 points. He does 50 points of hitting the ball constantly while I just need to do ten 3-cushion play points and thats 50 points.

What do you mean by straight-rail? Not familiar with the whole carom thing. I just know how to hit that object ball and go 3 rails and make contact with the next object with my cue ball.

OR cue ball hits Rail/object ball/Rail/Rail/object ball - as long as you hit 3 or more rails

I might have said wrong... I dont know, yea jim what you mention scoring 4 and missing my 5th shot is what I mean.

(Ex. Score 3 points and missed 4th shot, sat down, waited for player to miss, got back up, made 3 points and missed 4th shot.)

I guess I was doing my kind of inning like baseball where your playing another player and he was second to shoot after you won the lag... everytime he missed a new inning starts. Get what I'm saying? Hope so.

Thats the thing... I dont know how official rules are played for 3-cushion only because I started this year.

yea Jim, I would be pissed if I only got 5 points in 35 innings. If I made no points in the inning, I would find a way to keep myself up that 1.0 avg. I do take my time on shots, thats why I wonder if there is a time limit on each shot?

Its hard for most people to understand what Im saying... I guess I type to fast to bother thinking what I wrote.

So each players avg. play in different brackets? 1.0-2.0avg. play in A class while 0.90-0.50avg. play in B class?
Jim, so is it whoever makes the most points in 35 innings win? Whats the most each player can make in a match as a B?

Its good to hear what people say about this game... gets me interested to the fullest. Makes me lose in 9-ball tournaments just to get on a billiard table and play full throttle.

What kind of sponsor would I get... just wondering, never dealt with this before? Make me feel weak in 9-Ball but happy in 3-cushion.

Viet.
 
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jimshovak said:
Robert, you are absolutely right. This game will drive you nuts! As a good example, I ended up winning (luckily) the Southgate Tournament in June...
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I see you won the NJ event as well. No wonder you are working so hard to get these tournaments together - you're winning all of them! :)

I was ready for Blomdahl. When was my friend showing up? I could hardly wait to kick his behind! For the rest of the night, I was back to averaging around .500.
Boy, I was depressed.
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The Billiard Gods always tease us just enough to keep us playing this ridiculous game. At least we get to enjoy the illusion of billiard greatness from time to time. It makes the achievements of the top players that much more incredible!

Robert
 
VietSoClassic said:
well heres my 50 innings avg 1.74. I got really hot on Inning 19 and started to get tired after Inning 25. I was playing with my friend but he was just there to hit them around in different spots so I could keep going. Everytime I missed I just played from there.

Inning - Pts / Inning - Pts
01 - 3 / 26 - 0
02 - 2 / 27 - 2
03 - 2 / 28 - 1
04 - 1 / 29 - 1
05 - 3 / 30 - 0
06 - 0 / 31 - 0
07 - 2 / 32 - 1
08 - 3 / 33 - 2
09 - 1 / 34 - 4
10 - 3 / 35 - 2
11 - 0 / 36 - 0
12 - 2 / 37 - 1
13 - 5 / 38 - 3
14 - 2 / 39 - 0
15 - 1 / 40 - 1
16 - 1 / 41 - 2
17 - 2 / 42 - 4
18 - 0 / 43 - 3
19 - 1 / 44 - 0
20 - 1 / 45 - 2
21 - 3 / 46 - 0
22 - 2 / 47 - 1
23 - 6 / 48 - 3
24 - 3 / 49 - 2
25 - 3 / 50 - 0

87pts.

I was playing on a Olhausen table 5x10 with worn out Brunswick Cloth
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Forget the averages, guys... what I'd like to know is - when did Olhausen start making 5x10 billiard tables? Actually, I'd like to see an American table manufacturer start making heated 3-cushion tables.... ;)

-Ira
 
Yea all of his tables are like the one you see on TV black all around with white bold print of Olhausen table on the sides. I'll take pics of it. I could be wrong... but it looked bigger than a 9ft table... could be 9 1/2ft. ::shrugs::

I was thinking of dropping by to the Sang Lee Tournament and check out their pool hall. Flight is going to cost me and hotel, but I really wanted to go see one of these 3cushion tournament and maybe get some pointers and lessons. Trying to do this all before school starts for me.

What tip do people play with?
 
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VietSoClassic said:
Yea all of his tables are like the one you see on TV black all around with white bold print of Olhausen table on the sides. I'll take pics of it. I could be wrong... but it looked bigger than a 9ft table... could be 9 1/2ft. ::shrugs::

I was thinking of dropping by to the Sang Lee Tournament and check out their pool hall. Flight is going to cost me and hotel, but I really wanted to go see one of these 3cushion tournament and maybe get some pointers and lessons. Trying to do this all before school starts for me.

What tip do people play with?
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Please take a pic. I'd love to see it an Olhausen carom table.
Don' just think about dropping by the Sang Lee event. Just do it - you'll be glad you did.
Most players shoot with Moori S or M.
 
technically moori S is like medium right?. Im playing with talisman M and want to change it to S to get maximum spin! Give me thursday and I go take picture.
 
iralee said:
Forget the averages, guys... what I'd like to know is - when did Olhausen start making 5x10 billiard tables? Actually, I'd like to see an American table manufacturer start making heated 3-cushion tables.... ;)

-Ira
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where I play also has an Olhausen table.. although im almost sure its a convert.. meaning.. it used to be a 5x10 pool table. it plays really well
 
iralee said:
Forget the averages, guys... what I'd like to know is - when did Olhausen start making 5x10 billiard tables? Actually, I'd like to see an American table manufacturer start making heated 3-cushion tables.... ;)

-Ira
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They'll make them special order. But no heat from what I've seen.
 
I didn't know Brunswick made Billiard cloth either. Shooting a 1.7 on worn out worsted wool cloth as well? It gets even more impressive.
 
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