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What do you think will happen with an open bridge? And what about shooting behind my back? Or standing on one leg? Let's cover all the bases.
Or maybe just work on your stroke mechanics...
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What do you think will happen with an open bridge? And what about shooting behind my back? Or standing on one leg? Let's cover all the bases.
Or maybe just work on your stroke mechanics...
pj
chgo
I know what will happen with an open bridge. I invited you to do an experiment, and for perhaps the dozenth time, you are shirking the shot making experiment and are goal post switching the argument instead.
I've described an atypical stroke that some pros use, for which the closed bridge offers a physical, and not psychological advantage.
You made the absolute remark to "cover all bases" as you wrote. I thought I'd appeal to your intellect and reasoning rather than simply say "masse stroke". Can you not envision the cue stick slipping off the ball when shooting a hard masse, and how the closed bridge would make the play easier?
Let's just say for now, you consistently argue with people whether or not you know you're right.
That would be a miscue (and would only happen if you hit beyond the miscue limit). Are you seriously trying to say a closed bridge can prevent miscues?
pj
chgo
If you grip near the balance point, you probably should use a closed bridge.
Maybe, if the tip rises out of your bridge before contacting the CB - but if that doesn't happen a closed bridge won't help.
BTW, the balance point on every cue I've ever checked is a few inches forward of the wrap. Do some players grip that far forward?
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Bob Jewett gave you guys enough clues. Snooker players are able to use an open bridge for power shots because of their anchor points or touch points where the cue is kept stable and can't move off line when shooting with speed. So if you're going to shoot pool with an open bridge, you'll need to create some anchor points where the cue stays in contact with your body throughout the stroke.
No, I'm saying that when a stick deviates from the norm intentionally (like the swerving topspin shot described as used by some playing professionals) the closed bridge is more than a psychological crutch as you'd suggested.
But you haven't said how. It can't prevent miscues, so what does it do besides give more confidence?
pj
chgo
If you can power draw with a v-bridge without anchoring the cue in any way, then more power to you. I can't.
I do it all the time - many times a day, in fact (one table I practice on has pretty slow cloth, so every draw shot is a power draw shot). As I've said, the shaft jumps out of my bridge after contact, but I hardly notice any more.
I don't suppose there's any reason to change if your closed bridge is working for you...
pj
chgo
One question: if an open bridge is good for power-strokes why do 3C players RARELY if ever employ it? I've watched a ton of world-class 3c and those guys have a case of covid-lockdown-bridge on almost every shot. I know its bigger balls and more force so is that why or is a closed bridge actually better for power shots?
Just coincidentally, last evening i noticed that Jayson Shaw breaks and power draws with an open bridge.
I'll pay attention to other pros and start a list.
i use an open bridge but haven't noticed the cue jumping out of the bridge. Is that due to the grip?
I'll pay attention to other pros and start a list.
i use an open bridge but haven't noticed the cue jumping out of the bridge. Is that due to the grip?
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Do you have a theory for how it might be better - other than compensating for a bad grip/stroke?
pj
chgo
You're the one with all the facts here. Are you saying that 3c players used a closed bridge because they have bad strokes/grips?
Jason Shaw uses a 19 foot pool pole. No way that's gonna float.
Thank you for asking. Pros who aim at the base of the cue ball, then swerve for topspin or other spin on the final forward stroke, have to abruptly change their angle of stick approach mid-stroke.
Try the diagrammed shot each way as suggested. The cue stick will either leave your bridge hand entirely with an open bridge or you'll have to tone down the pace and follow on the shot to accomplish it with an open bridge.
If the cue stick leaves my bridge before hitting the cue ball, I don't want to learn that stroke. If it doesn't do that there's no need for a closed bridge.
pj
chgo
The cue would leave the open bridge on that stroke as employed by quite a few playing professionals. Therefore, your statement that the closed bridge only ever provides psychological, not physical, stroke help, is untrue.