PREDATOR ARCOS II Question

[DJKeys]

I had the Aramith Super Pro set before we moved to Las Vegas and was disappointed at how fast they got dirty, even the object balls got lots of chalk marks. When it was time for a new set, I went for the Aramith Tournament traditional set. I have been playing every day for about a month now, and there is not a single mark on any of the balls. From my experience, Duramith process is a huge difference from the Super Aramith Pro process, even though it may be the same physical material.

-dj

 

[MurrayNevada]

BEST ANSWER: No, they do not. "Predator came up with a proprietary formula that surpasses Duramith technology making Arcos the best-constructed balls available on the market today."
The Seybert's Team ON 26 Aug, 2020
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Although a happy Seyberts customer I'm a bit disappointed they gave the above inaccurate answer on their website. Makes me remember caveat emptor.

 

[8cree]

Although a happy Seyberts customer I'm a bit disappointed they gave the above inaccurate answer on their website. Makes me remember caveat emptor.

Good catch, that is kinda...wiggly..

 

[garczar]

Although a happy Seyberts customer I'm a bit disappointed they gave the above inaccurate answer on their website. Makes me remember caveat emptor.

Feel free to contact and give them this info. I seriously doubt they intentionally tried to mislead anyone. They got some bad info. Shit happens.

 

[MurrayNevada]

Feel free to contact and give them this info. I seriously doubt they intentionally tried to mislead anyone. They got some bad info. Shit happens.

I'm agree they weren't trying to mislead us. Just that their info was inaccurate. We are all guilty on occasion of passing along a story we have not properly researched. To err is human, to forgive Devine

 

[GideonF]

Feel free to contact and give them this info. I seriously doubt they intentionally tried to mislead anyone. They got some bad info. Shit happens.

If I were a betting man, I’d bet that Seyberts asked Predator and that’s the Predator answer. All of these marketing claims are suspect, not just Predator - taste great, less filing!

 

[ThinSlice]

I don’t know if Seyberts was misleading anyone. I don’t know where or who provided them the information but, if you read the information on Predators website they make it pretty clear that it’s a different ball set from what is normally made by Aramith.

Predator Arcos Pool Balls | Best Billiard Ball Sets | Official USA Site

Predator Arcos II Pool Balls offer the best accuracy and durability that superior quality phenolic resin billiard balls can provide. The best pool table balls. Free Shipping & Returns on all USA orders over $100.

www.predatorcues.com

They even go as far as to say they sound different which would mean to me that it’s a different formula. I have noticed this sound.


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[MurrayNevada]

“
Dear Sir,

Thank you for your e.mail.
The Aramith pool ball sets come in different types with different specifications.

From low end to high end :

- Crown Standard set uses our basic "Premier" resin, and contains some second quality balls (slight cosmetic defects that don't affect playability).
- Premier set uses the same Aramith Premier resin as the Crown Standard. All balls are first quality and the cismetic is different
- Premium set uses the Aramith Premium resin, a higher end resin creating a vitrification layer which is a translucent and very hard external layer. For this reason the numbers look a little bit fuzzy.
- Super Aramith Pro sets use the Aramith PRO resin, featuring a deeper vitrification layer. In addition the sets are matched to minimize the weight difference within a set.
- Tournament sets use the same Aramith PRO resin, but are produced using a proprietary technology called Duramith, allowing a longer lifetime.

The BLACK set belongs to the Aramith Tournament family. The Arcos II set is made for Predator with the same specifications as the Super Aramith Pro set.

More information is available on our website : www.aramith.com”

Aramith says:
"The Arcos II set is made for Predator with the same specifications as the Super Aramith Pro set." Doesn't say different specifications, says the same. That tells me that the Arcos II set is no different than the Super Aramith Pro balls. And that is a step below the Aramith Tournament sets.

 

[ThinSlice]

Aramith says:
"The Arcos II set is made for Predator with the same specifications as the Super Aramith Pro set." Doesn't say different specifications, says the same. That tells me that the Arcos II set is no different than the Super Aramith Pro balls. And that is a step below the Aramith Tournament sets.

I understand what the email says. I understood it the first time. But predator says something a little different. So there seems to be a conflict. Neither here or there for me.


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[MurrayNevada]

Neither here or there for me either but I'll go with the manufacturer's explanation. In a conflict I always look to see which party is more likely to, or would have more motivation to, embellish.

 

[chenjy9]

Could just be the cue ball that’s tweaked

 

[JT4Annapolis]

Neither here or there for me either but I'll go with the manufacturer's explanation. In a conflict I always look to see which party is more likely to, or would have more motivation to, embellish.

I would agree to go with the manufactuers explanation but would be curious the level of employee this information came from.

 

[garczar]

I would agree to go with the manufactuers explanation but would be curious the level of employee this information came from.

I was just kidding about the 'tin-foil hat squad'. Starting to sound like an episode of the 'X-Files'. When i msg'd Aramith i asked again to be sure and they said, AGAIN, that Arcos2 balls are THE SAME formula as the SAP(and Centennial) balls.

 

[MurrayNevada]

The Centennial and SAP balls all take on chalk similarly. The Tournaments stay cleaner than both. Duramith seems to be the game changer. I wish it wasn't so because I love the Centennials.

 

[garczar]

The Centennial and SAP balls all take on chalk similarly. The Tournaments stay cleaner than both. Duramith seems to be the game changer. I wish it wasn't so because I love the Centennials.

Wouldn't worry about it. Look, i've been playing with B'wick Centennials since they came out. Never knew/worried/cared about the chalk-sticking issue til all this hoopla here on AZ. They play great, look awesome and last forever. Wipe em off with a microfiber rag if you're all chalk-phobic. If you really are then go for the Tournaments, they look great as well.