Predator Blak Leather Case 2x4

Wedge

Wedge

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I have seen threads that say Predator never made a 2x4 Blak case in leather. I purchased one from Seyberts about 3 or so years ago and it was leather. They discontinued making them right about that time but they did make a small quantity. Does any one else on AZ have a Predator Blak in leather? Here is the Vinyl version they are selling now:

http://www.predatorcues.com/predator_cues_case_blak_big_2x4.php

Thanks

Wedge
 
I have one of the older Predator 2x4 cases that was made by Instroke, if you're interested. It's black leather with the gold embroidered Predator logo, and it's in truly mint condition.
 
Wedge said:
I have seen threads that say Predator never made a 2x4 Blak case in leather. I purchased one from Seyberts about 3 or so years ago and it was leather. They discontinued making them right about that time but they did make a small quantity. Does any one else on AZ have a Predator Blak in leather? Here is the Vinyl version they are selling now:

http://www.predatorcues.com/predator_cues_case_blak_big_2x4.php

Thanks

Wedge
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I think you are mistaken. I saw those cases from the time they were prototypes and know the factory that makes them and I honestly doubt that they made any in leather. In fact I had to correct a grave error in design that would have resulted in many broken cases had I not caught it and told them how to correct it.

As far as I know the cases have always been made in vinyl and the only real leather Predator cases I know of are the ones I designed and made for them when I owned Instroke.

Of course I could also be wrong because at the same time the factory was courting Whitten which would have meant they were using nice nappa leather so it's quite possible that they did do some leather ones.
 
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I think you are mistaken. I saw those cases from the time they were prototypes and know the factory that makes them and I honestly doubt that they made any in leather. In fact I had to correct a grave error in design that would have resulted in many broken cases had I not caught it and told them how to correct it.

As far as I know the cases have always been made in vinyl and the only real leather Predator cases I know of are the ones I designed and made for them when I owned Instroke.

Of course I could also be wrong because at the same time the factory was courting Whitten which would have meant they were using nice nappa leather so it's quite possible that they did do some leather ones.
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So, you're saying you don't know.
 
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The case is leather. When I was looking to buy a Predator Blak case I called Predator and ask them if they had it in leather. They said they no longer made them in leather. I ask them if they knew of any distributors that had any and they told me to contact Seyberts which I did. They had 2 or 3 left in leather and I purchased 1 of them.

Wedge

I found the original thread I posted when I purchased the case:

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=112095
 
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JB Cases said:
I think you are mistaken. I saw those cases from the time they were prototypes and know the factory that makes them and I honestly doubt that they made any in leather. In fact I had to correct a grave error in design that would have resulted in many broken cases had I not caught it and told them how to correct it.

As far as I know the cases have always been made in vinyl and the only real leather Predator cases I know of are the ones I designed and made for them when I owned Instroke.

Of course I could also be wrong because at the same time the factory was courting Whitten which would have meant they were using nice nappa leather so it's quite possible that they did do some leather ones.
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I believe the case is leather. Predator told me they made it in leather as well as Seyberts who sold it to me. You said I was mistaken on your lengthy post. Unless you have proof please refrain from taking over a post with speculation...unless you are saying that both Predator who pointed me to Seyberts to purchase the case and Seyberts who sold it to me were lying.

Wedge

Fortunately, I will not see your long winded response or any other for that matter as I just added you to my ignore list! SO I won't see you continue to use AZ as free advertisement and a vehicle to bad mouth Murnak and Justice...Bye Bye!!!
 
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Wedge said:
I believe the case is leather. Predator told me they made it in leather as well as Seyberts who sold it to me. You said I was mistaken on your lengthy post. Unless you have proof please refrain from taking over a post with speculation...unless you are saying that both Predator who pointed me to Seyberts to purchase the case and Seyberts who sold it to me were lying.

Wedge

Fortunately, I will not see your long winded response or any other for that matter as I just added you to my ignore list! SO I won't see you continue to use AZ as free advertisement and a vehicle to bad mouth Murnak and Justice...Bye Bye!!!
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I am sorry the way you worded the post seemed to indicate you were inviting discussion about it. I mentioned in my SHORT post that I could not be certain but I was offering my experience.

Predator does not make cases. They have cases made. Long Chan is their case maker at present. Why don't you simply post pictures of this case and your proof? Apparently it's important to you that people know that the Predator case YOU own is leather. I have not a care in the world either way. I just like to discuss cases.

If you want to opt out of the discussion by misreading my intent and putting your earplugs in then go ahead. That won't stop me from putting in my opinion on cases where it's relevant.

I can tell you that Seyberts and Predator both among many other dealers have been fooled by their suppliers as to what is leather and what is vinyl. Right now Seyberts has GTF cases in vinyl that not even the world's best collectors were able to tell they aren't leather. I showed one off last year at the ICCS in Sarasota and not one cue maker or collector could tell it was vinyl even next to leather versions. So the case you have might very well be leather, or it might not be. If you wish to move it as leather then perhaps the burden of proof is on you.
 
Wedge said:
Fortunately, I will not see your long winded response or any other for that matter as I just added you to my ignore list! SO I won't see you continue to use AZ as free advertisement and a vehicle to bad mouth Murnak and Justice...Bye Bye!!!
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Sorry but I pay for that "advertisement" with a club membership AND participation in many topics beyond simply selling cases. As for your accusation on "bad-mouthing" Justis (not Justice) and Murnak your opinion is noted. I gave you and everyone else an opportunity to get a 10:1 bet down that I would not "bad-mouth" either of these makers any longer and since the bet I have not. Of course maybe you consider it bad-mouthing to simply utter their names I don't know. In any case I haven't lost the bet so on this point you are certainly wrong.

As to your search for the apparently mythical Leather version of the Predator Blak good luck. Why don't you simply call Predator and get them to send you an email stating that yes they did make them and there are x-number of real leather ones in circulation. When you do that then they will become instant collector's items and if you still own one in leather you can sell it for thousands of dollars.

Like I said I have never seen one in leather. I like to think that I keep up on the trends of my competitors with decent regularity. However I could be wrong and if they did in fact make some in leather then great. I didn't say anyone was lying. I once had to compete with someone who said their Instroke knockoffs were leather for half my price.

I complained and he showed me his invoice from the manufacturer where the material was listed as leather. I had to take one of his cases apart in front of him to prove it to him. He then went back to the manufacturer and complained. Coincidentally this was the same manufacturer who now makes the Predator Blak cases. Probably just a clerical error since it is hard to tell leather from vinyl sometimes.
 
Here, my google is not broken http://soren-sogaard.com/shop/predator-blak-cue-989p.html

They say that this one is leather. $382 USD out of stock. (for three years)

So it looks like you might be right. Feel better now? Well you might if you could see it.

Google is definitely your friend: http://web.archive.org/web/20080607081506/http://www.predatorcues.com/predator_cues_cases_big.php

So there you go. Vindicated and I was wrong, I'd apologize but I have nothing to apologize for. Wonder why they quit having them made in leather? Seems strange for a case that you described as better than your Ron Thomas and Fellini.
 
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2 Versions

There were two versions of this case. The Vinyl version and the Leather version. I bought 5 of the Leather Version when they discontinued making this case all together. I knew they would be hard to find in the future.
 
I have the leather version but it's a 3 x 5 not the 2 x 4...mine was in black with chrome accents. I get compliments everywhere i go.
 
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