predator...hard to control?

[Fred Agnir]

Now wait a minute Fred, surely you don't believe that swerve makes me hit it fatter. Squirt if anything is the factor. I mean afterall this shot has way to much speed for swerve. It falls into the same category as spin and throw, so small its almost non existant.

I thought you were giving an example of hitting a shot fatter when you use a Predator. Therefore, if you hit it fatter with a Predator, given the english you show, it's either spin induced throw or swerve that made it fatter. I vote for 90% swerve and 10% throw. Did I misunderstand your diagram?

I compensate for swerve all the time but this shot and many more isn't one of them. If you believe a predator has less squirt (which you obviously do), this is surely a time to believe in such.

From that distance and coming off the rail? I can't see how it isn't a swerve dominant shot using a Predator.

Fred <~~~ thinks we must be talking on two different pages

 

[Rod]

I thought you were giving an example of hitting a shot fatter when you use a Predator. Therefore, if you hit it fatter with a Predator, given the english you show, it's either spin induced throw or swerve that made it fatter. I vote for 90% swerve and 10% throw. Did I misunderstand your diagram?

You didn't misunderstand. That c/b actually travels a bit farther. The first rail kills the speed by a fair amount. At that speed its very doubtful swerve is a factor, just like spin and throw. Yes maybe you could say 3% for each, who knows.

From that distance and coming off the rail? I can't see how it isn't a swerve dominant shot using a Predator.

Fred <~~~ thinks we must be talking on two different pages

Were on the same page. The c/b is well off the rail given the angle. Its as level as any shot within reason. I didn't mean to give the impression I am jacked up. That being what it is, or even farther from the rail plus speed, swerve isn't an issue for me.

What I'm saying is because a predator supposedly squirts less; less squirt (and less squirt only) is the only reason for hitting the shot fatter. That is except for a tiny (very tiny) percentage of other factors as discussed.

If my aim is the same, which I said it was, the predator shaft deflection gets me closer to my aim angle or (I hate these last two words) contact point.

At what speed to you consider no swerve? I sure hope it isn't break speed at 4 feet with a near level cue. LOL Its well above med speed, firm.

Rod

 

[Fred Agnir]

What I'm saying is because a predator supposedly squirts less; less squirt (and less squirt only) is the only reason for hitting the shot fatter. That is except for a tiny (very tiny) percentage of other factors as discussed.

Yes, I agree with this. All other things being equal, the less squirt is what is the difference.

Fred

 

[Fred Agnir]

At what speed to you consider no swerve? I sure hope it isn't break speed at 4 feet with a near level cue. LOL Its well above med speed, firm.

Rod

Above med speed. For that distance, and what I believe your elevation would be due to the rail bridge, I think you need to be hitting that about 4-5 table length speed for "no swerve."

And of course, to not hit it fat, you'd have to change your aim since your normal aim probably takes into account the normal squirt (which is what I infer from your previous post).


Fred