I am somewhat of a Predator collector. Most of my cues are shooters with the exception of two collectibles. Those two are Uniloc cues as well as my BK Rush break cue. Every other Predator I own, 4 of them, are Radial joints. I use the same shaft for shooting no matter which of the 4 Radial butts I use: a Revo 11.8mm black vault plate with stock soft Victory tip dyed black. All my butts weigh 19 oz. with the Revo shaft. Three of my four shooters are extremely sought after models. Every Uniloc shaft I have ever owned has been sold with the exception of the ones matched to the 2 collectors. I have about a half dozen Radials in 314 and Z3 which I hold on to in case I sell one of me Radial butts. After years of shooting all kinds of joints I have decided that, FOR ME, the flat radial joint feels the best and locks up perfectly.