Predator shaft question

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How does Predator sponsor? Do they sign these players up and pay them to use the product or something?

Isn't Charlie Williams using Viking now? Is he professionally endorsing the cue? Does his cue have a 314 shaft?;)
 
My understanding is that Predator sponsors noone. To ascertain, contact Neil at Seyberts.com.
 
kokopuffs said:
My understanding is that Predator sponsors noone. To ascertain, contact Neil at Seyberts.com.
They don't in a way but the pros get deals on those shafts then they sell them. They're really are walking pitchmen/women for Predator.
 
I think that one of the reasons you don't see more pro's using the Predator shaft is that they spent 1000's & 1000's hours learning how to shoot with a regular shafts. With that type of investment it is no wonder that they do not want to go through a learnng curve since they have navigated that "curve" already. But since most of the posters here are not pro's the Predator is worth considering. I know that in my case it really shortened my learning curve, especially the "inside" english phase. I have read of horror stories here on the board concernng construction of the shaft,however, my own experiance and that of my friends who use the Predator shaft are all positive. If you are totally comfortable with you curent shaft absolutely stay with it. Those of you who are in the early to intermidiate stages stand to lose nothing by trying one them if you get the opportunity.
 
Well everyone is entitled to their opinion and the is a fact. I have heard great things about the 314 shafts and apparently I have been a good boy this year and Santa decided to leave me one underneath the tree, so I will be trying it out tomorrow night and hopefully I will like it. I have noticed that it is a lot thinner than my Pechauer shaft not to mention that the ferrule and over all length is shorter a bit but hey it wont hurt to try it out. There is always Ebay :)
 
One last suggestion:

If looks are important to you, you can also order an unfinished shaft from Predator. They will send the shaft to your cuemaker and the cuemaker can then match the ring/collar work to your existing cue.

I did this, so now I have Predator shafts that were matched specifically to my custom cue....so they look like a matched set.

I hope everyone had an enjoyable holiday!

All the Best,

Melissa Herndon
 
I would just like to state that I do use and believe in the Predator Products, but I have never been a salesperson for them. The only product that Predator has sent to me is for personal use, and I would never sell it. Yes, I would recommend Predator to players who are looking to advance their game, but I would do that for any product that I believed in. I cannot speak for any other pros, but I would like you all to know that when I speak in favor of Predator, I am not doing it to try and sell you something, but because that is how I feel.

Best Regards,

Melissa Herndon


Joseph Cues said:
They don't in a way but the pros get deals on those shafts then they sell them. They're really are walking pitchmen/women for Predator.
 
I played with my 314 for the first time last night. It wasnt bad at all and I actually liked it. It took a bit of time to get used to it but overall I liked it. I got some crazy draw and awesome spin. My breaks were harder and more of a spread. The biggest thing that I had to get over was how much thinner the shaft was compared to my Pecahauer. If people are hesitant to buy it I would recommend that they at least try it out before making judgement.
 
NOSAJ03 said:
I played with my 314 for the first time last night. It wasnt bad at all and I actually liked it. It took a bit of time to get used to it but overall I liked it. I got some crazy draw and awesome spin. My breaks were harder and more of a spread. The biggest thing that I had to get over was how much thinner the shaft was compared to my Pecahauer. If people are hesitant to buy it I would recommend that they at least try it out before making judgement.
You better lay off breaking with it.
The ferrule was not designed to take that kind impact.
The ferrule is a really thin unthreaded plastic.
It was designed to be really light.
 
Joseph Cues said:
You better lay off breaking with it.
The ferrule was not designed to take that kind impact.
The ferrule is a really thin unthreaded plastic.
It was designed to be really light.

Are you serious?????? I didnt think about that. But if it does ill send it back because it is covered by the warranty. I had never heard that their ferrules do that???????
 
It's fine, the ferrule won't break.

I've used a spare predator shaft to break with many times, there have been no problems. The Predator Break cue has the same ferrule, just a little shorter.

Roger
 
Rich R. said:
No, I don't particularly like Predator shafts. To me, they feel dead and you don't get any feedback from them.

Also, Timmy's shafts are excellent. Why change?

Rich R.

I use a perdator SPW, wood to wood with the uniloc screw and it feels "lively" to me. So I got a 314 shaft for my balabuska (new japanese import) and it feels real strange. Sort of like the shaft wiggles but doesn't get to the butt. Don't know what to blame this on other than the thick stainless joint.
 
If your 314 feels like it's "wiggling" try to tighten it. I know pro's that break with their 314 shaft's, not not the break cue's. They dont' have a problem with it. If you were going to break something like 9-Ball i'd say get a break cue but for anything else your normal cue will work just fine, I know mine does. Alot of the pro's use predator shaft's and different butt's. I know Jose Garcia does. He uses a Joss butt (I think, I'll have to ask him) and a 314 Shaft. I remember when he was showing Charlie Williams his cue before Williams started using Predators. That has to say something about the cue....

Btw, Hi! I'm new here!
 
buddha162 said:
It's fine, the ferrule won't break.

I've used a spare predator shaft to break with many times, there have been no problems. The Predator Break cue has the same ferrule, just a little shorter.

Roger
Many times but it will go out later.
It did on mine . I don't even know if the Predator breaking cue is also hollowed out at the end of the shaft. I don't why they would do that though.
 
Joseph Cues said:
Many times but it will go out later.
It did on mine . I don't even know if the Predator breaking cue is also hollowed out at the end of the shaft. I don't why they would do that though.

I don't see how that would happen, unless you bang your ferrule against the rail three times after the breakshot for good luck :)

All their shafts are drilled and hollowed out near the end. That's how they achieve lower deflection. That's why their break cue works the way it does: you can miss the spot on the CB slightly but still send it to the one ball full on (or closer to full-on than if you're using other shafts).

In my experience, Predator ferrules scratch easier, and are harder to keep clean. But they are as strong as any other ferrule out there if used correctly.

Roger
 
Yes its scratches

Yes it scratches easily. And if you hit the cue ball (you're breaking) consistently below the center to control the cb, the ferrule will be deformed (or "eaten up") after a while. Its been happening to a pro friend of mine. He has a spot where he hits the cb for best results. The shaft is also always on that same angle. Therefore its the only place on the tip getting beaten up. The 314 stayed straight but the ferrule has to be replaced every so often.;)
 
Creep said:
If your 314 feels like it's "wiggling" try to tighten it.
Btw, Hi! I'm new here!

The shaft locks up tight, just feels like the shaft vibrations stop at the joint. The original buska shaft seems stiffer, little feedback. But then I seem to be out of step with most folks anyway.
 
Re: Yes its scratches

monski said:
Yes it scratches easily. And if you hit the cue ball (you're breaking) consistently below the center to control the cb, the ferrule will be deformed (or "eaten up") after a while. Its been happening to a pro friend of mine. He has a spot where he hits the cb for best results. The shaft is also always on that same angle. Therefore its the only place on the tip getting beaten up. The 314 stayed straight but the ferrule has to be replaced every so often.;)

The only way I can see this happening is on a very, very thin tip, using a lot of low english. How this helps "control the cb" I have no idea.

If you're hitting anywhere within 2 tips of center ball, it's impossible to "deform" the ferrule. ANY ferrule. Given that the tip is not thinner than a nickel.

Roger
 
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