I currently shoot with a Z2 and thinking about getting a WX900. I've heard nothing but good things about the WX900 but curious if the deflection is comparable to the Z2. I don't want to have to adjust my shooting too much. If anyone has both, I'd appreciate any insight on the differences in deflection.
Predator Z2 vs Mezz WX900
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The z-2 (http://www.predatorcues.com/shafts/z-2-shaft/) , the Mezz WX900 (http://mezzcues.us/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8&products_id=131), and the Tiger Pro-x (http://www.tigerproducts.com/shaftspoolprox.html)
basically all have the same spec structure: 11.75-12 mm, conical, small ferrule.
As I have not hit with 2 of the 3 (I had a Z-2) so I cant give you an absolute opinion.
But from a scientific aspect (no expert here), they should basically all have the same stiff hit.
I believe any adjustments would be minimal and barely noticable.
I, as well, am about to buy the wx900 for my Mezz.
Wutang
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I have had all three. This is just my opinion of course, but I think the Wx900 has a little more deflection than the Z2 and the Tiger Pro-x and don't think it would take a lot of adjustment. I am used to the Z2 and although I think the feel of the WX900 is better, I am, for at least now, sticking with the Z2.
Are you able to jump a full ball with it? That has always been a problem of mine with the predator shafts. I can jump a full ball with a house cue but just couldn't do it with an LD shaft. If you can jump with a Mezz shaft, I might be sold.
If you can pull off a full ball jump with a deflection cue I would be very impressed. LD shafts aren't made to jump a ball and the LD makes it even more of a task.
I didn't have them at the same time, but I got the WX900 about a month after getting rid of the Z2. The Z2 offers top shelf performance, but feels clinical and heartless. The Mezz I felt had more deflection comparatively, but still far less than most. The difference was that the Mezz felt good to the hit, so it ended up being the one I kept.
It's really a matter of introspection on how much performance vs feel matters to you, and you really can't go wrong either way, provided the nature of these super low deflection shafts are to your liking in the first place.
It's really a matter of introspection on how much performance vs feel matters to you, and you really can't go wrong either way, provided the nature of these super low deflection shafts are to your liking in the first place.
i carry a Predator by Mezz w/ Z2 as well as a Mezz w/ WX900 in my case. I was an avid Z2 user but am transitioning to the WX900 because its a bit more forgiving on off-center hits. Deflection characteristics seem very slightly better on the Z2.
BTW, I have tried many custom and production cues but Mezz just does it for me.
BTW, I have tried many custom and production cues but Mezz just does it for me.
Mezz has more deflection but has better feel and hit only shaft I feel that's as low as the Z or Z2 is the OB Pro and Pro + and the OB2 and OB2+ the Pro offers the hit and feel the mezz gives and has the deflection of the predator but that's me others may not hope u find one u like :thumbup:
So how does the mezz shaft achieve low deflection if it can jump a ball like a normal shaft? My understanding with LD shafts, was that there is less mass near the tip. So instead of deflecting the cueball the shaft moves out of the way to deflect less. That is what makes jumping with an LD shaft a challenge because a shaft has to follow through and push the cueball into the table rather than moving out of the way.
If the WX900 can jump a ball, I'm unclear at how it achieves low deflection close to a Z2.
If the WX900 can jump a ball, I'm unclear at how it achieves low deflection close to a Z2.
Neither shaft is adept at jumping balls ... odd how that has become a main topic of this thread.
Typically, you jump a ball by driving the shaft through the antipodal points (pairs of points on a sphere that lie on a straight line through the sphere's center).
Theoretically, an LD shaft will actually grab the ball better on a slightly off center jump whereas a non LD shaft might skid. The problem is that LD shafts have low front end mass and softer tips, which more than negates the good that the LD does .... on a jump shot.
Typically, you jump a ball by driving the shaft through the antipodal points (pairs of points on a sphere that lie on a straight line through the sphere's center).
Theoretically, an LD shaft will actually grab the ball better on a slightly off center jump whereas a non LD shaft might skid. The problem is that LD shafts have low front end mass and softer tips, which more than negates the good that the LD does .... on a jump shot.
WX900 has a totally different feel than Z2.
The feeback and feel of the shaft is superior to Z2. Z2 might deflect a tad bit more, but the dull feel and the delamination and ferrule cracking problems makes the WX900 a better shaft by a big margin.
Predator is supposed toe release Z3 and 314-3 very soon, maybe those shafts will be better than the current generation?
The feeback and feel of the shaft is superior to Z2. Z2 might deflect a tad bit more, but the dull feel and the delamination and ferrule cracking problems makes the WX900 a better shaft by a big margin.
Predator is supposed toe release Z3 and 314-3 very soon, maybe those shafts will be better than the current generation?
I was just excited thinking I could jump with a full cue again but I guess not. I play in an APA league where jump cues aren't allowed.
KIM BYE: I think you mean the Z2 would deflect a tad less. When people say the Z2 would defect just a little less than the WX900, I'm just curious what a "little" is.
Is it confirmed that predator is coming out with a new generation of shafts? Maybe I'll wait for those before I make a purchase.
KIM BYE: I think you mean the Z2 would deflect a tad less. When people say the Z2 would defect just a little less than the WX900, I'm just curious what a "little" is.
Is it confirmed that predator is coming out with a new generation of shafts? Maybe I'll wait for those before I make a purchase.
You wanna jump with a player?
Stop messing with those useless LD shafts.
Now you can break, play, jump and never let go of one cue.
All you gotta do is compensate for the English shots.......ooooh the nightmare...
something you have to do anyway LD or not.....lol
Stop messing with those useless LD shafts.
Now you can break, play, jump and never let go of one cue.
All you gotta do is compensate for the English shots.......ooooh the nightmare...
something you have to do anyway LD or not.....lol
Wrong. Many, many shots I do not need to compensate with an LD shaft. Kinda nice, because no matter what, there is NOT going to be an error in my "estimate". So, if my stroke is good and I aim correctly, one less thing to go wrong.
The whole deflection thing is a bit confusing. A low deflection shaft has less end mass, the result being the shaft deflects more away from the ball after impact.
So Z2 is a better LD shaft than WX900 or said in another way: Z2 has more deflection than WX900.
Just trying to ascertain as much knowledge as I can before I "pull the trigger" on a new shaft.
In this thread,Im getting 'mixed' reviews about these shafts.
So I wanna ask the question this way: Which shaft out of the 3 (Z-2, WX900, Tiger pro x) hits the STIFFEST?
Thanks for listening.
Wutang
In this thread,Im getting 'mixed' reviews about these shafts.
So I wanna ask the question this way: Which shaft out of the 3 (Z-2, WX900, Tiger pro x) hits the STIFFEST?
Thanks for listening.
Wutang
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