Don't know what it means, but of the scores of Diamond tables I've played, I've never seen 4.75" league cut pockets.
And am quite pleased about it.
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And am quite pleased about it.
Not on the 9' (oval) Blue label Diamonds I play on. If I hit the facing too far out at medium-fast speed, the ball will rattle. At fast speed, the ball has to skim the long rail for the ball to drop.
As for shelf depth, there are balls that can hang on the edge of the shelf that you cannot reach hitting rail first from any direction.
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I've often wondered why the patently hit full ball and draw away fro the area. Can't they go tit first and spin away? If the ball is that deep it cant hang right?
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You can't go rail first but you can certainly go tit first. Much easier to get out of there with cushion assist.
Line up 3 balls frozen to each other and the rail just past the side pocket. Hit the cue ball at break speed. The 3rd ball will drop, at break speed along the rail. This of course is assuming no one has altered the pockets from the factory cut or stacked any facings.
What does this prove though? That shot should go on any table - even Olhausens.
It will rattle on tables with pockets cut too wide. It will rattle on most Olhausen tables with stock cut pockets.
By steep you mean funneled? I can't imagine anything that clears the tit on that shot not going.
No. See Lil' Chris's video on facebook of him doing exactly that and out of 8 shots I think 1 went in. His is a blue label 9' table.
No he isn't he is shooting straight into the facing.
here is the screen grab of the second shot. It doesn't hit the rail. First contact is the facing.
In my experience, if you hit the facing that far out on a Blue label Diamond, the shot will rattle if hit at medium to fast speed.
Yes. He is off the rail. In fact, the object ball is almost a full ball off the rail. Definitely not shooting down the rail. Parallel to it, sure.
Check the video again. You have the screenshots, so I'm sure you have it handy.
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I think they were more common in the early Diamond years. I don't think they really advertise them as much anymore. More like "you have to know about them to get them".
By off the rail I thought you were talking about the ball hitting the rail on the way to the pocket. ok. misunderstanding.
Ok. Redo.
This^^^ got changed from steep to wide.
Just to clarify, the more towards obtuse the facing, the smaller the "make" target is. Generally, anything less than an obtuse ball entry into the facing will bounce into the other facing and at speed will send the ball into a standing wave.
Grazing the rail on the way in can work to a degree by generating running spin that becomes reverse spin at the facing. This has at least two pertinent effects. The reverse spin will diminish the ball momentum, slowing the ball into drop speed and should the ball make it to the second facing, any residual spin will now be running spin. ie into the abyss spin...
If the shot is carrying too much speed and spin, it can enter the "standing wave" zone and rattle infinitely...
Diamond (hallowed ground evidently) has did the matt to make sure you can slam it down the rail.
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