Problems with my Draw (Vid Included)

Draz

Draz

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Hey Everyone,

I have been practicing a bit on my draw shots and let me say, i suck at them! :( Seriously i can't seem to get the draw going. When ever i try it's always something like the ball stops dead, the ball jumps, the ball does what ever. Im talking about the cue ball by the way. Anyway I attached a video file with like 4 or so attempts at a draw shot, maybe someone can tell me what i am doing wrong or what i can do to fix it...

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xaebwq_drawless_lifestyle


Thank you


- Draz
 
looks like 3 problems total.

You're not hitting low on the cue ball at all. you're jacking the back of the cue out but you're still hitting too close to center ball. you're also punching the ball instead of following through. don't stab the ball, imagine you're trying to make the tip of your stick touch the other ball.
 
Draz said:
Hey Everyone,

I have been practicing a bit on my draw shots and let me say, i suck at them! :( Seriously i can't seem to get the draw going. When ever i try it's always something like the ball stops dead, the ball jumps, the ball does what ever. Im talking about the cue ball by the way. Anyway I attached a video file with like 4 or so attempts at a draw shot, maybe someone can tell me what i am doing wrong or what i can do to fix it...

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xaebwq_drawless_lifestyle


Thank you


- Draz
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Hey Draz, The vids help confirm what you are describing. When the cue stops on a draw it is because it is airborne at the moment of contact with the objectball (ob). All the energy is transfered to the OB and the cue stops.

From your video it is clear that one problem your cue is at the wrong angle. When you are aiming your draw, your cue is at like a 30 degree angle or something.

Your cue should be LEVEL or close to it when stroking, even on a draw. So dont raise the buttend of the cue.

Next is your followthrough, You arent geting any. Because your cue is angled up, you arent getting the proper followthrough on your stroke. You are making these fast "jabby" strokes instead of a long smooth one with followthrough. Try slowing down your stroke once you have it level.

Lastly, I couldnt see how your wrist is from the vid since you only showed the ball and cue, but keep your wrist flexible. Do not stiffen it up. A looser wrist will give you more action on the cueball.


So give that a try. A)level out your cue B) smooth followthrough (at least 3 inches from the cueball at first) C)looser wrist to help with followthrough/smoothness/better action on CB.

To begin only try one cuetip below center. Draw isnt about how hard you hit but how much spin you get on the CB.

Give it a try and take another vid! Good luck.
 
As others have already mentioned, the butt of the cue is elevated much too much. You are definitely poking at the ball, and you are hitting the cue ball too high up. But the biggest problem is that you aren't finishing your stroke. Watch how the tip of your cue springs back after contact. In order for that to happen, you are already slowing down your stroke before contact in anticipation of pulling the cue back.

A proper draw stroke requires you to STROKE through the bottom part of the cue ball, not POKE at it. Get with a qualified instructor immediately and have them help you develop a stroke that will help you get better results. Without the proper fundamentals, you will continue to struggle.

Steve
 
Draz...The ineffective draw you are getting, is the result of poor stroke mechanics. I will be in S. CA in November, and can show you how to "fix" all the problems you are experiencing...plus give you the tools you need, to be able to improve immediately, and diagnose errors (with the ability to self-correct them).

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Draz said:
Hey Everyone,

I have been practicing a bit on my draw shots and let me say, i suck at them! :( Seriously i can't seem to get the draw going. When ever i try it's always something like the ball stops dead, the ball jumps, the ball does what ever. Im talking about the cue ball by the way. Anyway I attached a video file with like 4 or so attempts at a draw shot, maybe someone can tell me what i am doing wrong or what i can do to fix it...

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xaebwq_drawless_lifestyle


Thank you


- Draz
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Today i tried out the tips you all gave me and well i haven't been able to get it 100% of the time yet being as i just tried it...but... here is a quick video...

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xaf2hy_ihavedraw_animals

Thank you all for your help, the vid links and vid. all those tips... :grin:!!!



Scott - Awesome!!! Thank you, because i need a lot of help... look forward to meeting with you in November.


- Draz
 
The video shows some better results, but really isn't helpful for any feedback. We see the tip of the cue, but not what YOU are doing. Give it a little rest, and when Scott gets with you, you will learn things you can't possibly get over the computer. Be prepared to work, because Scott can teach as long as you can stand up at the table. You are in for a real treat!

Steve
 
pooltchr said:
The video shows some better results, but really isn't helpful for any feedback. We see the tip of the cue, but not what YOU are doing. Give it a little rest, and when Scott gets with you, you will learn things you can't possibly get over the computer. Be prepared to work, because Scott can teach as long as you can stand up at the table. You are in for a real treat!

Steve
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he doesn't want to show his face because it'll knock his action
 
randyg said:
Scott's best action is at the supper table......:-)
SPF=randyg
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As I recall, the three of us have spent a few hours over the dinner table together, and I don't think there is a slacker among us! :eek:

Steve
 
First, you have to understand WHAT you are trying to do. If I were you I would get rid of the OB for now, use a stripe ball with the stripe running horizontal, so you can see the spin. Position your cue tip low on the ball, and stroke smoothly all the way through the ball trying to make it act like a hoola hoop you would spin backwards real fast as a kid. The hoola hoop would go forward for 5 or 6 feet until the backwards spin would grap, and bring it back to you. Remeber, use a loose grip, and see if you can get the stripe ball to move forward with backspin on it until it grabs, and then stops. Don't think of hitting the ball hard, just getting it to spin backwards, even if it only travels forward 12 to 15 inches. After you learn to apply the spin add the object ball and practice at different speeds. This will get rid of the PUNCH you have once you understand the spin achieved by following through.
 
Looks like problem solved for the most part, you can go lower on the cueball and get more draw, depending on your tip, the softer the less likely you'll miscue. Take your standard closed index finger bridge, then curl the middle finger underneath, you will be able to make the cue drop even lower. As stated, you'll need to drop the butt of the cue as low as possible as well, to minimize chances of miscueing. Don't forget too, that raising the cue and hitting hard causes the cueball to jump, possibly off the table, or making you miss your shot. In the video, I noticed that you still need to work on your follow thru.
 
Draz said:
Today i tried out the tips you all gave me and well i haven't been able to get it 100% of the time yet being as i just tried it...but... here is a quick video...

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xaf2hy_ihavedraw_animals

Thank you all for your help, the vid links and vid. all those tips... :grin:!!!



Scott - Awesome!!! Thank you, because i need a lot of help... look forward to meeting with you in November.


- Draz
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Looks a lot better so far! Practice will take you closer to 100% From watching the vid, you still cant see your stroke but I would recommend a LITTLE bit more follow through. Your still striking and pulling the cue back to fast.

Put the cue a little further apart from the OB and work on the follow through a bit more. Also work on your follow shot! I find that a good follow shot is more important thand a good draw. Draw just looks a lot cooler.
 
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