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jhaydie
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am with you mike!
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AzHousePro said:
I liked the forum a lot. People here were nice to each other, supportive of each other and the pool talk was good. And you Mike I know worked hard to keep it that way. I hope it can be that way again. I just dont know what that would take.
Laura
Bluewolf said:
You "liked" the forum....the only difference from the other day is the absence of Larry....people here are supportive of each other for the most part and helpful with their knowledge of the game....their are of course individuals that feel that dropping Larry made the forum less interesting for whatever reason - IMO he has already invented himself as another user as the arrogance is quite the same....as far as the forum itself, nothing has changed, there is no need to change it ("I just dont know what that would take - comment), and Mike works his backside off to keep it pleasant for the rest of us that want to learn about pool and not have this forum turn into a chat room setting.....and to avoid having to listen to a simple minded person with an ax to grind.....before you respond, please note I am not attacking you as that is not my intent, but I have to give credit where credit is due and say Mike is doing a hell of a job at moderating this site.......
Two comments.
First, Iagree with Mike that's it's time
to move on, guys! Even though FL's
gone, he's not really gone,is he ?
That said, I still have to make a
comment to yap wolf. In the site
you showed us he still scored 30 points.
Could you do that? He's admitted he's
well past his prime. Also, he won the
sportsmanship award!!! That even
amazes me. So, yap, ease up on larry.
All I am saying is give peace a chance.
First, Iagree with Mike that's it's time
to move on, guys! Even though FL's
gone, he's not really gone,is he ?
That said, I still have to make a
comment to yap wolf. In the site
you showed us he still scored 30 points.
Could you do that? He's admitted he's
well past his prime. Also, he won the
sportsmanship award!!! That even
amazes me. So, yap, ease up on larry.
All I am saying is give peace a chance.
I can not imagine that anyone would come here to read just FL posts. Now I have read this forum for a year or so and this Catus Ed shows up out of the blue just to read FL's posts, the week after he was kicked off? Sounds strange to me.
FIRST, Larry has been out of hand for a long time. We as Americans have the right to free speach but as Americans we also have rules we must follow. When you break rules, you must be held responsible for your actions. The house pro has the right to say that the posts that FL was making were unacceptable. This is a site that Mike has his name assoicated with. He has the right to maintain the integrity of his site and his business.
Bluewolf relays a "different FL" to us and I credit her with trying to sweep up after him. Laura knows well that FL comments can be upsetting and I personally have taken offence to many of the posts he has written. Laura, I hope that IF he is permitted to re-enter this site (god-which I know he has already) you of all people who know him, can explain that his comments are raciest and hurtfull to many people.
Personally as I have said in the past, FL discredits himself with the posts he writes. All of this controversary is just feeding his head and the more we talk the bigger it gets. My vote is to just shut up about him.
FIRST, Larry has been out of hand for a long time. We as Americans have the right to free speach but as Americans we also have rules we must follow. When you break rules, you must be held responsible for your actions. The house pro has the right to say that the posts that FL was making were unacceptable. This is a site that Mike has his name assoicated with. He has the right to maintain the integrity of his site and his business.
Bluewolf relays a "different FL" to us and I credit her with trying to sweep up after him. Laura knows well that FL comments can be upsetting and I personally have taken offence to many of the posts he has written. Laura, I hope that IF he is permitted to re-enter this site (god-which I know he has already) you of all people who know him, can explain that his comments are raciest and hurtfull to many people.
Personally as I have said in the past, FL discredits himself with the posts he writes. All of this controversary is just feeding his head and the more we talk the bigger it gets. My vote is to just shut up about him.
I've been reading the posts from God and a couple of others that I haven't heard much from prior to FL being booted. People were getting pretty fed up with him for quite a while and I really didn't recall seeing any posts back then supporting him. Now that he's booted, several people come forward criticizing Mike for booting him. I don't think you should back down and let him back in Mike. You made a decision and now there are just a few people, some of which weren't even here before complaining about your decision. Tough!!
Gremlin suggested using the ignore button. I tried that. It didn't help because half the posts on the forum were about FL and his inappropriate behavior. His quotes were on other people's posts so you couldn't ignore him. I see myself as a Libertarian, i.e., I believe in live and let live. However when someone's behavior cannot be ignored, it is no longer live and let live. He is infringing on others' rights whether he means to or not. If someone wanted to be a nudist, I have no objection, just do not flash me. Find a place that you can do that without infringing on other peoples' rights not to see you if they don't want to.
You made the right decision Mike. If FL wants to come back, let him come in as another entity. You established a standard for conduct. Don't be shy about it. Hold your head up and stand by your convictions. Some will not agree with you but they will respect you. It's a tough road but consistency is what you have to strive for. If you let FL back, he'll never change and others will get out of hand too.
Gremlin suggested using the ignore button. I tried that. It didn't help because half the posts on the forum were about FL and his inappropriate behavior. His quotes were on other people's posts so you couldn't ignore him. I see myself as a Libertarian, i.e., I believe in live and let live. However when someone's behavior cannot be ignored, it is no longer live and let live. He is infringing on others' rights whether he means to or not. If someone wanted to be a nudist, I have no objection, just do not flash me. Find a place that you can do that without infringing on other peoples' rights not to see you if they don't want to.
You made the right decision Mike. If FL wants to come back, let him come in as another entity. You established a standard for conduct. Don't be shy about it. Hold your head up and stand by your convictions. Some will not agree with you but they will respect you. It's a tough road but consistency is what you have to strive for. If you let FL back, he'll never change and others will get out of hand too.
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rackmup
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Mike...
Allow him back in but not as "Fast" Larry Guninger.
Keep that name banned until the world burns up and let him come back as "God", "Cactus Ed" or the "Tooth Fairy" for all we care.
Under the phony names he will no longer be able to tout his "World Championships" that are always brought into question, He can't sign off with lyrics from that silly Ricky Martin song ("Vendi, Veebie Living La Vida Loca" or whatever it is) and I guarantee you the nonsense will stop.
When the "Fast" Larry Guninger ego cannot be fed, it will surely die and wither up like an old goat in the desert. Seeing his "name in lights" gives him the enormous recognition he needs.
Regards,
Ken
Allow him back in but not as "Fast" Larry Guninger.
Keep that name banned until the world burns up and let him come back as "God", "Cactus Ed" or the "Tooth Fairy" for all we care.
Under the phony names he will no longer be able to tout his "World Championships" that are always brought into question, He can't sign off with lyrics from that silly Ricky Martin song ("Vendi, Veebie Living La Vida Loca" or whatever it is) and I guarantee you the nonsense will stop.
When the "Fast" Larry Guninger ego cannot be fed, it will surely die and wither up like an old goat in the desert. Seeing his "name in lights" gives him the enormous recognition he needs.
Regards,
Ken
FL has come back to the playpool.com board today and once again all the posts seem to be 'by him' or 'about him'. When one person monopolizes the board/forum, it ruins it for everyone else.... imo A million words a day written about him, by him... Oy-Vey !
Somebody shoot me !
Somebody shoot me !
Banning is different than Libel
Now, I am at my moms in Roanoke, Virginia for 1-2 weeks,so I am stuck on dial up again,,,groan. I had no problem with mikes decision because Larry had engaged in much insulting behavior. If it was just between the 2-3 people from CCB that there were issues with, that would be one thing, but it was not. There were insults directed at many others as well.
Now busy kitty is right that I know a different Larry, but I also know the insulting Larry and Larry can attest to that, if he is ever back on here and how nasty I can be when I feel that I have been insulted. Now much he says I do not take personal but the one time he did insult me, I rode his ass so bad it would make your hair stand up. Not particularly proud of that as I was way nastier back than his original insult.
The thing I had issue with was allowing a certain person to bash him (number one), and (number two), using information which was not only unsubstantiated, but untrue and this person had already been told it was untrue. In essence, tearing down his reputation when he had been banned and could not even defend himself. Plus, Libel is Libel and is against the law everybit as much as the next thing.This person has asked for his credentials on several ocasions. Larry has given them. One of these threads was removed by mike. It was clear that this person was trying to set him up. This person puts in these devious one liners and has this huge vendetta. If Larry is not allowed to be here, it is my opinion that this person should either be banned or be banned from talking about Larry.
So to kick him off for rude behavior, that is fine. To allow a person if not more than one to degrade his reputation after he has been kicked off, that is what I found is deplorable.
Personally, I think that if Larry cannot be a 'forum' person, a pool forum is not a good place for him.
Laura
Now, I am at my moms in Roanoke, Virginia for 1-2 weeks,so I am stuck on dial up again,,,groan. I had no problem with mikes decision because Larry had engaged in much insulting behavior. If it was just between the 2-3 people from CCB that there were issues with, that would be one thing, but it was not. There were insults directed at many others as well.
Now busy kitty is right that I know a different Larry, but I also know the insulting Larry and Larry can attest to that, if he is ever back on here and how nasty I can be when I feel that I have been insulted. Now much he says I do not take personal but the one time he did insult me, I rode his ass so bad it would make your hair stand up. Not particularly proud of that as I was way nastier back than his original insult.
The thing I had issue with was allowing a certain person to bash him (number one), and (number two), using information which was not only unsubstantiated, but untrue and this person had already been told it was untrue. In essence, tearing down his reputation when he had been banned and could not even defend himself. Plus, Libel is Libel and is against the law everybit as much as the next thing.This person has asked for his credentials on several ocasions. Larry has given them. One of these threads was removed by mike. It was clear that this person was trying to set him up. This person puts in these devious one liners and has this huge vendetta. If Larry is not allowed to be here, it is my opinion that this person should either be banned or be banned from talking about Larry.
So to kick him off for rude behavior, that is fine. To allow a person if not more than one to degrade his reputation after he has been kicked off, that is what I found is deplorable.
Personally, I think that if Larry cannot be a 'forum' person, a pool forum is not a good place for him.
Laura
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rackmup
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It seems pretty obvious that Mr. Guninger has a multi-pronged problem and several "demons" tugging at his aging Sansabelt pant legs.
I imagine alcohol consumption after 5PM, coupled with those "dang noisy kids ridin' them there motor scooters up and down the street", the dog urinating on the carpet and the lost dentures have got Larry in quite the uproar.
There are three defined FL personalities:
(1.) There is apparently the "pleasant Larry" that visits people foolish enough to invite hime in.
(2.) There is the "grumpy & nutty Larry" we see here.
(3.) And my favorite Larry is the one that disappears into the night, never to be seen again.
Regards,
Ken
I imagine alcohol consumption after 5PM, coupled with those "dang noisy kids ridin' them there motor scooters up and down the street", the dog urinating on the carpet and the lost dentures have got Larry in quite the uproar.
There are three defined FL personalities:
(1.) There is apparently the "pleasant Larry" that visits people foolish enough to invite hime in.
(2.) There is the "grumpy & nutty Larry" we see here.
(3.) And my favorite Larry is the one that disappears into the night, never to be seen again.
Regards,
Ken
Fast Larry doesn't monopolize this board. He doesn't stop anybody from posting as much as they want on any topic they desire. He doesn't hold a gun to anyones head.
The extent that people respond to or discuss him and his ideas is a self-evident testimonial of the great interest many posters have in him and his teachings. You may not agree with everything he writes; but to criticise him for generating a great deal of discussion indicates that it is you who wishes to manipulate or monopolize the interests of other posters, not him.