If you heard what you were just told, the used market is where you should be looking.
Profit margin on tables. What did you pay vs. "list"
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If you heard what you were just told, the used market is where you should be looking.
760 doesn't sound like a good choice for mom and dad, unless they fully understand and prefer how much faster 760 Simonis is than the far more popular, less "speedy" and generally more suitable 860 Simonis.
Secondly, beware of tight-pocketed tables if mom and dad (and any of their age-contemporary guests, relatives, neighbors, etc.) aren't more than casual players and are of average skill level.
Tight pockets, while our holy grail, kill the fun of pool for casual players. Fortunately there are plenty of brands of well-constructed tables of suitable nice home furniture design to chose from, and which have invitingly generous pocket size (and with forgiving narrow shelves -- another important consideration for casual players who welcome the fun of pocketing balls on such player-friendly tables). They're not wrong to view the words "playing" pool in its literal meaning.
Arnaldo
Secondly, beware of tight-pocketed tables if mom and dad (and any of their age-contemporary guests, relatives, neighbors, etc.) aren't more than casual players and are of average skill level.
Tight pockets, while our holy grail, kill the fun of pool for casual players. Fortunately there are plenty of brands of well-constructed tables of suitable nice home furniture design to chose from, and which have invitingly generous pocket size (and with forgiving narrow shelves -- another important consideration for casual players who welcome the fun of pocketing balls on such player-friendly tables). They're not wrong to view the words "playing" pool in its literal meaning.
Arnaldo
American Heritage Billiards (and all other furniture manufacturers) have a 30-50% markup, to wholesale. from there, dealers' markup is anywhere from 20%-200% (plus or including freight). when a SKU is discontinued, you can get it @ 75-90% off wholesale (if you know someone, and plus freight & not including installation).
used are your best bet. plenty of halls & laypeople dumping what they've got at 10cents/dollar. a friend just sold his pristine two yr old GCIV @ $2500, that Scott Lee & Lee Brett said was one of the best they've ever played on.
or you could just order direct from AliBaba @ $500 FOB China. but freight will cost you a good $3000 - if you ever receive it....
As someone who spent about 30 years in retail, I'm going to dispute this number. Those kind of margins aren't found in many retailers of hardlines; the products don't turnover as quickly so the margins end up much smaller.
I'd guess that, if sold at "list" (which is the price no one actually pays and is an inflated number created by the manufacturer to show greater value or a bigger discount) they might get 40%. Everyday pricing, they're probably getting 25% max.
Brian in VA
In the business I work in 40 percent is very achievable. No idea about pool tables but I too would guess 35% plus
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What good is it to get a bargain price compared to list, if the table is no good?
First priority, find a quality table brand.
Second priority, find a quality table that fits the allotted budget.
If money is no problem, buy Diamond. They offer plenty of styles to satisfy most anyone.
Right now you are looking in the wrong way, trying to get tools to bargain down a dealer without even knowing a particular brand or model. OK, so you bargain from $3000 down to $2000 but you end up getting a Chinese table worth at most $1200, what have you accomplished?
If a dealer sees you as a pure bargain hunter, he'll show you his high-markup cheap tables. You will think you got a bargain when you actually pay more than the next customer who is not bargain hunting.
Good luck, just set a price range and go shopping and ask again in this forum and maybe also in the mechanics forum after you make a couple of choices of brand and model.
First priority, find a quality table brand.
Second priority, find a quality table that fits the allotted budget.
If money is no problem, buy Diamond. They offer plenty of styles to satisfy most anyone.
Right now you are looking in the wrong way, trying to get tools to bargain down a dealer without even knowing a particular brand or model. OK, so you bargain from $3000 down to $2000 but you end up getting a Chinese table worth at most $1200, what have you accomplished?
If a dealer sees you as a pure bargain hunter, he'll show you his high-markup cheap tables. You will think you got a bargain when you actually pay more than the next customer who is not bargain hunting.
Good luck, just set a price range and go shopping and ask again in this forum and maybe also in the mechanics forum after you make a couple of choices of brand and model.