Proper cue tip storage (?)

[cigardave]

Is there one? Based on my recent experience, there may be one.

Several years ago (~4?) I bought ten (10) domed (pre-shaped)Talisman Medium Pro tips from Tony's website and stored them in a very small ziplock that was kept inside a cue case zippered pouch. I don't know if the ziplock was even sealed. It may have been. I live here in the Seattle area where the ambient relative humidity varies from 50 - 80% on average... and the temperature extremes are rather mild.

Last week my cuemaker replaced a couple of tips for me and while turning down the tips on his lathe (using a razor blade) he commented on how hard the tips were... and now that I have hit some balls with them, he's right!! They are extremely hard. They don't play anywhere near the way that they did shortly after I received them.

Does anybody have any insight on why that happened?

BTW, Tony's tips are shipped out of the Chicago area.

I'm going to send Tony an email re this as well.

 

[cigardave]

Issue Update:

Tony Jones of Talisman Billiards responded to my email late last night and although they haven't tested his theory, he believes that the tips have hardened due to having dried out while unprotected in Seattle's climate.

He went on to tell me that he has similar tips that are eight (8) years old that are in a sealed ziplock in his desk drawer and they still install and play well... so I guess that my storage method (likely the un-sealed ziplock) is responsible for what happened... lesson learned.

Regardless of my mistake, Tony has generously offered to replace all of the tips that have hardened under his Iron Clad Satisfaction Guarantee.

Thank-you very much, Tony. :thumbup2:

And he also advised me that they changed their glue formula 18 months ago and he expects that I will discover that the replacement tips will play better than the first batch that I bought. Sounds good to me.

 

[Newton]

I have all my Kamui tips in metal cans which is then sealed with electrical tape.
I then pack these in zip plastic bags and store them in my fridge. If this is the
correct way is unknown for me but I have at least done this.

Storing tips in plastic organizers, small plastic bags inside cue bags and the like
is asking for trouble if you ask me. They would dry up and not be usable is my
experience at least..

I guess there is a reason Moori tips are sold in the same way as tablets/medicine pills

K

 

[scdiveteam]

Issue Update:

Tony Jones of Talisman Billiards responded to my email late last night and although they haven't tested his theory, he believes that the tips have hardened due to having dried out while unprotected in Seattle's climate.

He went on to tell me that he has similar tips that are eight (8) years old that are in a sealed ziplock in his desk drawer and they still install and play well... so I guess that my storage method (likely the un-sealed ziplock) is responsible for what happened... lesson learned.

Regardless of my mistake, Tony has generously offered to replace all of the tips that have hardened under his Iron Clad Satisfaction Guarantee.

Thank-you very much, Tony. :thumbup2:

And he also advised me that they changed their glue formula 18 months ago and he expects that I will discover that the replacement tips will play better than the first batch that I bought. Sounds good to me.

Hi,

IMHO, Moori tips rule!!! With layered tips, it's all about the glue.

Kudos to Talesman for the great customer service. I am impressed.

Rick G

 

[Penrose Cues]

Tips

I don't know if it has anything to do with packaging or storage, but I would like to know if I'm the only one who noticed that the new Moori tips are much drier and harder than the older generation.

Usually, I put about 200 Moori a year on cues for my customers. I noticed that the new generation Moori tips, which are being sold in the blisters, are much harder and drier than the old ones which were sold in tins.

Recently, I swapped some Kamui tips for "old generation" Moori and I compared the "older ones" with the new ones, and I clearly could see the old ones to be much darker in shade and they appeared to be more moist than the " new ones''.

So now, when I get new tips in blisters, I immediately remove them from the blister and stock them in their original box, just in open air.

It's great... They absord some moisture and tend to get to the point that they are much more similar to the "old ones"

Anyone else noticing this difference between old and new generation Moori?

 

[Newton]

I don't know if it has anything to do with packaging or storage, but I would like to know if I'm the only one who noticed that the new Moori tips are much drier and harder than the older generation.
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That is the reason why I have stopped using Moori years ago. When the Medium Moori III came - it was so hard that I could not play with it any more.

That said - some Kamuis I have have been harder than expected but I think this
is just a few bad apples in the basket.

Locally - the boys have jumped on the Tiger Talisman tip which is stock on the
OB shafts.

K

 

[Vyc]

Old Moori Tip

I recently came across 3 Moori medium tips that I lost track of for ~9 years. I found them after I bought a brand new one which I had installed on one of my cues, a Joss. Whenever I install a new tip, I play for an hour and I always shoot a little harder to compress the tip, so that I can have the tip reshaped before I leave the pool hall. Sure enough, the new Moori flattened out. A few weeks later, I decided to have one of the 9 year old Moori's installed on a 314 shaft. When I tried to do the same thing, shoot harder when playing, the older tip did not compress at all! No reshaping was needed. The older moor definitely got harder (drier too). Because it's harder, I also get a lot more english action with lesser effort. Needless to say, I miscue a lot more now too if I don't chalk up before each shot. I look at this as a good thing, it's teaching me to chalk up before each shot so I don't miscue. It's a habit I hope to engrain in me...cheap insurance before each shot.