Proper way to use HAMB....

duckie said:
This was part of a reply in the Lining up thread that I wanted to reply to but not want take the other thread off topic.

"It was an, "I told you so," moment. I was helping some of the guys with their swing and mentioned to him that his boy had a couple of hitting flaws that I could help him to correct. His answer was, "no way." He said he just needs to get locked in the basement, swing the bat ten thousand times and he'll get it right. Unfortunately, he didn't. Like HAMB."

The implication is that HAMB will not help a person "get it right."

The real issue wasn't HAMB but not willing to practice perfect.

HAMB has nothing to do with the quality one puts into getting better.

In the article I posted in another thread about how pros aim, there was one common theme.......HAMB.......but doing it right.

Even if those tips were taken seriously, it still will require thousands, millions of swings to make those tips a natural part of the motion.

You can not master anything with proper practice.

In pool, that is HAMB.
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HAMB, is not proper practice.

Proper practice is structured practice that is benchmarked to record progress. It very rare that a person can practice properly and deeply on their own. Proper practice is guided by good coaching.

Hitting a million balls is only an expression. It doesn't mean a literal million balls. It is an expression meaning you have to put in table time to see results. But bad practice doesn't really build skills.

Earlier I spent about ten minutes focusing on one position route so that I could break the habit of always choosing a "safer" route that often ended up landing the cueball on the rail making the next shot harder. Now I own the new route because I looked deeper at WHY it works rather than simply do repetitions. Now since I understand the WHY I own all similar position routes without having to do a couple hundred reps on each one.
 
The proper way to use hamb is to put it between two slices of bread and throw in some CTE (cheese, tomato and egg).
 
JB Cases said:
HAMB, is not proper practice.

Proper practice is structured practice that is benchmarked to record progress. It very rare that a person can practice properly and deeply on their own. Proper practice is guided by good coaching.

Hitting a million balls is only an expression. It doesn't mean a literal million balls. It is an expression meaning you have to put in table time to see results. But bad practice doesn't really build skills.

Earlier I spent about ten minutes focusing on one position route so that I could break the habit of always choosing a "safer" route that often ended up landing the cueball on the rail making the next shot harder. Now I own the new route because I looked deeper at WHY it works rather than simply do repetitions. Now since I understand the WHY I own all similar position routes without having to do a couple hundred reps on each one.
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John, that is exactly why Dr. Dave, Pat, and myself have posted so much about the "whys' of how things work. When one knows the whys, then one can take 1+1=2, and 2+2=4, and extrapolate from that knowledge that 1+2=3. That is why doing drills is so important.

If one just does drills to go through the motions of doing them, then one is not learning much of what is actually available to learn.
 
Perfect fundamentals is not as important as desire

Perfect fundamentals is not as important as desire.


A man could have a half hearted motivation to improve and he could hit a million balls with somewhat desire to improve but if he also has a job to attend to and desires elsewhere he will not get the results of the guy who is out there playing pool as away of life because his mindset is different.

The mind is amazing. Beliefs and desires can actually turn genes on and off and create physical changes in a person and neccesity can form those beliefs and desires. Here is an example.


Guys in prison eat shit food and train horribly but you will see them get amazing results from lifting beyond most guys who are on the outside lifting... even though the guy on the outside is following much better scientific practices and eating much better than the guy on the inside. I know drugs are available on the inside but that doesn't change nothing because anyone who lifts will tell you that you still have to lift to get big no matter what drugs you take and the workouts on the inside are still elementary compared to a hardcore at the gym who shows less gains and is doing drugs also with a better diet.


There was an article I read about this and their theory basically said that the reason has to do with the environment. Basically when you workout to survive... because in prison you need that dont F with me look and the ability to be strong and defend yourself... your body reacts differently than it does when you workout to impress the women on Friday night. I guess the same theory could apply when trying to figure out why Kieth McCreedy could play so good even when he had only hit 500,000 balls with a sidestroke action while I'm sure someone out there has hit 2,000,000 balls with perfect form and less results.
 
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(((Satori))) said:
Perfect fundamentals is not as important as desire.


A man could have a half hearted motivation to improve and he could hit a million balls with somewhat desire to improve but if he also has a job to attend to and desires elsewhere he will not get the results of the guy who is out there playing pool as away of life because his mindset is different.

The mind is amazing. Beliefs and desires can actually turn genes on and off and create physical changes in a person and neccesity can form those beliefs and desires. Here is an example.


Guys in prison eat shit food and train horribly but you will see them get amazing results from lifting beyond most guys who are on the outside lifting... even though the guy on the outside is following much better scientific practices and eating much better than the guy on the inside. I know drugs are available on the inside but that doesn't change nothing because anyone who lifts will tell you that you still have to lift to get big no matter what drugs you take and the workouts on the inside are still elementary compared to a hardcore at the gym who shows less gains and is doing drugs also with a better diet.


There was an article I read about this and their theory basically said that the reason has to do with the environment. Basically when you workout to survive... because in prison you need that dont F with me look and the ability to be strong and defend yourself... your body reacts differently than it does when you workout to impress the women on Friday night. I guess the same theory could apply when trying to figure out why Kieth McCreedy could play so good even when he had only hit 500,000 balls with a sidestroke action while I'm sure someone out there has hit 2,000,000 balls with perfect form and less results.
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In the books on talent, which basically found that talent doesn't exist statistically, the prevailing theory points to desire being that which sets apart the elite performers. The desire to get in the gym, get on the table and consume everything they can and do everything they can to get better and faster and stronger and wiser.

This is why HAMB by itself is just a number. If a man has a desire that burns hotly enough he will incinerate all obstacles.
 
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