Quality VS. Price

Does the cost matter

  • I play better with mid to low end sticks

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • I have equipment I'm comfortable with and only use that

    Votes: 9 20.0%
  • I shoot better with high end sticks

    Votes: 4 8.9%
  • None of this matters, if you can play...you can play

    Votes: 31 68.9%

  • Total voters
    45

ne14tennis

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Don't mean to ramble, but I need to get this out

I have a friend, let's call him Bob. He owns a local pool hall and is an avid cue collector and seller of pool cues.

It's late one night and he's taking his cues out of the display case for overnight storage in a safe. He has his hands on a Carmelli that sells for about $1300. He asks me if I want to try it out and I tell him no I don't need a cue like that.

Bob says "What do you mean by that?". I respond that I have a Jerry Olivier Super Sneaky and a Bob Griffen Super Sneaky ( guess that's the term for them since they look like a house stick with joint collars) and I have a OB-1 shaft for both of them. They are straight, they are the weight I like, they both hit almost identical and I can't tell them apart if I shot with a blindfold. Their both in the $400-450 range and I wouldn't shoot any better with a $1500 stick.

He responds back with "You ever see the pros playing with a $400 cue?". I counter "The pros don't pay for their sticks and I'll bet some don't even use the stick that sponsors them".

He finally says "It's a mindset. If you're not willing to spend the money on a high dollar stick because you don't think you're good enough.....you'll never be good enough".

I thought about that for a few minutes and I asked "What kind of sticks do you and your wife shoot with? A couple of Carmellis, a Dale Perry and all of them are over 1K each". "Everytime I've played you.....who's won?"

Bob answered "You have and don't get me wrong, I've played quite a few players that I lost to, but you know what.....I looked good doing it" :thumbup:

The question then is: Does cost really matter or are you just paying for looks after a certain point. I don't mean a $50 Walmart cue. I'm talking about the $300-500 stick vs. the $1500-???? stick
 
Just pay more for the sticks you already own and all will be 'better'.

Send Bob and Jerry $ now. Really.
 
ne14tennis said:
Don't mean to ramble, but I need to get this out

I have a friend, let's call him Bob. He owns a local pool hall and is an avid cue collector and seller of pool cues.

It's late one night and he's taking his cues out of the display case for overnight storage in a safe. He has his hands on a Carmelli that sells for about $1300. He asks me if I want to try it out and I tell him no I don't need a cue like that.

Bob says "What do you mean by that?". I respond that I have a Jerry Olivier Super Sneaky and a Bob Griffen Super Sneaky ( guess that's the term for them since they look like a house stick with joint collars) and I have a OB-1 shaft for both of them. They are straight, they are the weight I like, they both hit almost identical and I can't tell them apart if I shot with a blindfold. Their both in the $400-450 range and I wouldn't shoot any better with a $1500 stick.

He responds back with "You ever see the pros playing with a $400 cue?". I counter "The pros don't pay for their sticks and I'll bet some don't even use the stick that sponsors them".

He finally says "It's a mindset. If you're not willing to spend the money on a high dollar stick because you don't think you're good enough.....you'll never be good enough".

I thought about that for a few minutes and I asked "What kind of sticks do you and your wife shoot with? A couple of Carmellis, a Dale Perry and all of them are over 1K each". "Everytime I've played you.....who's won?"

Bob answered "You have and don't get me wrong, I've played quite a few players that I lost to, but you know what.....I looked good doing it" :thumbup:

The question then is: Does cost really matter or are you just paying for looks after a certain point. I don't mean a $50 Walmart cue. I'm talking about the $300-500 stick vs. the $1500-???? stick

it's both luxury and cue preference (mindset) . honestly, if those 1K+ cues only cost the same as that of those 300-500 dollar cues, I wouldn't hesitate to get one myself. I would prefer it over those 300-500 dollar cues.

the price doesn't make the cue better, it's the construction and composition. too bad the cuemaker has to make a living, otherwise he would had given one of those beauties for free. :D

are we back with the HONDA CIVIC versus FERRARI argument? :D

anyway, as far as the TOP DOGS are concerned, they prefer cues that they are most comfortable at playing with some blings, it just so happened that those cues cost a lot.

*remember, sports have also become a fashion industry as well.
 
you may be able to get a little more action with a certain cue if you're a good player. but i've seen great players shoot lights out with house cues. some of the reasons to spend money on a custom are if you like the cuemakers work, collect, or feel that you shoot better with that particular make. i shoot with a ratty lookin' old meucci and i do pretty well, i also have a dick neighbors custom on order. and i don't think it's gonna make me play any better even though it's going to cost me five times what the meucci did. i just like dick's cues and he has a solid rep for building great stuff so when i wanted to spend the cash i ordered one.
 
Quality/Price

I've had nice cues in the past but I just can't get past a nice hitting cue. My main playing cue is a Schmelke Cocobola SP with a radial pin and a predator Z shaft. I've got a friend that's got some high dollar Gina and I'll take that $150 sneaky pete all day long over that insanely expensive Gina! I've also seen so people that have some high dollar cues that couldn't run 5 balls to save their lives. I think it's all what you have confidence in if you ask me.
 
If you can play you dont need a 1500 dollar cue. and your right, after a certain point your just paying for brand name or inlays and the like. Dont get me wrong though. If i had the money id only shoot with a 2000$ cue. but it wouldnt make me any better. He says when he wins he looks good doing it, well the flip side is also true, when he looses he looks like a fool. Can you image what the guy who beats him with a house cue it thinkin afterward?
 
TXsouthpaw said:
If you can play you dont need a 1500 dollar cue. and your right, after a certain point your just paying for brand name or inlays and the like. Dont get me wrong though. If i had the money id only shoot with a 2000$ cue. but it wouldnt make me any better. He says when he wins he looks good doing it, well the flip side is also true, when he looses he looks like a fool. Can you image what the guy who beats him with a house cue it thinkin afterward?


I did got beat by a guy who's not better than me but used as better SP cue. I got stucked playing with a badly warped house cue. :embarrassed2:
 
TXsouthpaw said:
He says when he wins he looks good doing it, well the flip side is also true

true indeed. actually it makes you look even better when you make a run-out or make some amazing shots with it. people would notice your cue rather than you as a player.

just make sure that you dont suck, so that people wont ask or talk about you. :thumbup:
 
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