An older friend of mine named Bill S. has an original Gus Szamboti. He still has al the paper work and the original shipping box. Now this cue is not at all fancy. Just a plain 4 point cue with either 3 or 4 veneers. Still has the original wrap. He has 2 original shafts, maybe minus the original tips. He is just looking to see what the market will bring for it. I told him that right now i think that the market might be soft. Am i wrong???? If so please correct me. He also has an original frank paradise cue ( I also believe he has the original receipt for this also) with his name in the butt that you can see thru the plastic window like Palmer use to use.. This cue also only has 4 points with the same amount of veneers. Only problem with this cue is that it has double (2 sets of 2) yellow rings that have come a little loose. I believe i have pictures on my computer of both cues. So can anybody give me a rough idea on how much these both might be worth. And oh yes. He just received a new Paul Mottey that he now loves............................mike