I have one of those Stroke Trainer inventions made by Doug Carter, but I've been too lazy to use it. I know that some of you here have one. My question is if I were to do 1000 strokes per day on that thing, would my stroke improve faster than if I just did 250 or 500 per day, or is that just overworking my muscles? The longest I ever used it was about a week and a half straight every day, about 250 strokes per day and I didn't really notice much of a difference. So if I was to bump up the strokes by alot, would my stroke improve within a week or so? I really don't even know the proper way to use this thing, that's why I'm asking. Thanks
Question about the StrokeTrainer
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I've had a Stroketrainer for quite a while. The better the player the longer it takes to see results. I think the reason is that your stroke at that level is already pretty good, but with many repititions with the trainer you WILL see results. A straight stroke is very important, and the Stroketrainer can provide that.
I do 150 strokes with the guide, and then another 100
by turning the thing around and stroking through the posts without using the guide. I've been doing this for a year and a half EVERY day. Believe me, I have confidence in my stroke.
TommyT
I do 150 strokes with the guide, and then another 100
by turning the thing around and stroking through the posts without using the guide. I've been doing this for a year and a half EVERY day. Believe me, I have confidence in my stroke.
TommyT
I too have become very lazy with its use, and even with pool in general... I might go a month or more without using it now, whereas in the beginning I was doing 250 strokes per day in groups of 50. I did notice slight improvement when I was using it consistently.
Even though I'm too lazy to use it consistently now, if I have a prearranged game I will use it. I will do 500 strokes the days preceding the game (depending on how many days I have before the game of course), and 1000 strokes the day of the game, right before I head out to play. Believe me, it has made a difference. I'm in stroke right from the first shot, even if I haven't been playing for weeks. I'm about 9 for 10 using this technique in decent sized prearranged games.
If I'm just going out looking for a cheap game, or just to hit balls, I won't bother using it. But any game of significance, I will give myself every edge I can.
Even though I'm too lazy to use it consistently now, if I have a prearranged game I will use it. I will do 500 strokes the days preceding the game (depending on how many days I have before the game of course), and 1000 strokes the day of the game, right before I head out to play. Believe me, it has made a difference. I'm in stroke right from the first shot, even if I haven't been playing for weeks. I'm about 9 for 10 using this technique in decent sized prearranged games.
If I'm just going out looking for a cheap game, or just to hit balls, I won't bother using it. But any game of significance, I will give myself every edge I can.
LowEnglish said:
I never do more than 100 per day 4 or 5 days a week. With increasing age my elbow seems to be a limiting factor, arthritis maybe. At any rate, I found a lesser number adequate to produce improvement. I think the quality of the stroke is more important than the quantity. Doug Carter, the inventor of the stroketrainer, told me he strokes in slow motion when using it, concentrating on sensing the movement of his muscles, joints, etc.
the 3RD EYE & the StrokeTrainer
The StrokeTrainer works on a different principle, than Joe Tucker's 3rd eye.
The StrokeTrainer assists you in training your stroking forearm & Joe Tucker's 3rd Eye helps you visualize correct address of the Cue Ball. If you can't shoot the cue ball at the far end rail & cause it to rebound into your cue tip, every time, spending $8 for Joe Tucker's 3rd will be a good investment.
Humans learn precision MOTOR SKILLS through REPETITION. Office workers, Musicians & Industrial skills of all kinds are all learned via REPETITION. You have to practice methodically, because you cannot think quick enough to perform a precision motor skill. In the pool stroke, you have the slow drawback, on line, of the cue while watching the cue ball, the pause while watching the cue ball & the forward stroke at a precise speed to perform the shot.
We sometimes think this is an easy game, but then most players have trouble putting 2 racks together.
Both Joe & Doug have been in business for sevral years now. They are selling their products to players that want to upgrade their game. If you think leassons & training aids are initially expensive, try playing poorly for a lifetime.
Look at the world of golf. Thre are a huge numbers of training aids in golf. The proof is in the pudding "Golfers are better now than ever, because of technology & training".
TheBook said:
The StrokeTrainer works on a different principle, than Joe Tucker's 3rd eye.
The StrokeTrainer assists you in training your stroking forearm & Joe Tucker's 3rd Eye helps you visualize correct address of the Cue Ball. If you can't shoot the cue ball at the far end rail & cause it to rebound into your cue tip, every time, spending $8 for Joe Tucker's 3rd will be a good investment.
Humans learn precision MOTOR SKILLS through REPETITION. Office workers, Musicians & Industrial skills of all kinds are all learned via REPETITION. You have to practice methodically, because you cannot think quick enough to perform a precision motor skill. In the pool stroke, you have the slow drawback, on line, of the cue while watching the cue ball, the pause while watching the cue ball & the forward stroke at a precise speed to perform the shot.
We sometimes think this is an easy game, but then most players have trouble putting 2 racks together.
Both Joe & Doug have been in business for sevral years now. They are selling their products to players that want to upgrade their game. If you think leassons & training aids are initially expensive, try playing poorly for a lifetime.
Look at the world of golf. Thre are a huge numbers of training aids in golf. The proof is in the pudding "Golfers are better now than ever, because of technology & training".
I too have the stroke trainer. And I also stroke about 150 a day with it and 75 without it following a straight line. Why do I stroke without? I think the slight pressure you have to use to keep your hand against the trainer throws you off a little. When you are stroking without the trainer your forearm will tend to come in just a little bit. For me this makes me hit just a mm right of center. I find that if I follow up the trainer with just following a line on my table it corrects this somewhat. Does anyone else that uses this have this problem? If you shoot a straight in shot will the cueball turn a little to the right. I may have a visual problem also which could explain this. I may need the 3rd eye trainer also.TommyT said:I've had a Stroketrainer for quite a while. The better the player the longer it takes to see results. I think the reason is that your stroke at that level is already pretty good, but with many repititions with the trainer you WILL see results. A straight stroke is very important, and the Stroketrainer can provide that.
I do 150 strokes with the guide, and then another 100
by turning the thing around and stroking through the posts without using the guide. I've been doing this for a year and a half EVERY day. Believe me, I have confidence in my stroke.
TommyT
