Question regarding Latin and South America

Positively Ralf

Positively Ralf

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Was just reading through the WPA wiki and noticed that for Central and South America, their governing branch is the Confederación Panamericana de Billar, which is basically mainly for Carom Billiards from what I'm seeing. Latin America is mainly greyed out and do not have a governing branch.

Was there ever a governing branch of the WPA in the past that overlooked these areas for pocket billiards/pool? Or has it never had a defining body in those parts of the world?
 
Positively Ralf said:
Was just reading through the WPA wiki and noticed that for Central and South America, their governing branch is the Confederación Panamericana de Billar, which is basically mainly for Carom Billiards from what I'm seeing. Latin America is mainly greyed out and do not have a governing branch.

Was there ever a governing branch of the WPA in the past that overlooked these areas for pocket billiards/pool? Or has it never had a defining body in those parts of the world?
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Do you have a link to what you were looking at? Here is the organizational map from the WPA website. The CPB is the governing body for pool in South America.

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Bob Jewett said:
Do you have a link to what you were looking at? Here is the organizational map from the WPA website. The CPB is the governing body for pool in South America.

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The WPA, among other things, could use a new atlas. They have countries designated as South America that are North American.
 
pt109 said:
The WPA, among other things, could use a new atlas. They have countries designated as South America that are North American.
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It looks to be the other way around. Mexico is shown on the map as being in North America, but so far as I know it is a member of the CPB. The only members listed as in the North American confederation are the US (BCA), Canada, and the BEF. Is there a different list?
 
Bob Jewett said:
It looks to be the other way around. Mexico is shown on the map as being in North America, but so far as I know it is a member of the CPB. The only members listed as in the North American confederation are the US (BCA), Canada, and the BEF. Is there a different list?
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There are 23 countries in North America….the ones in Central America are included.
I won a bet in El Paso when I was a kid…guy called me a Norte Americano….I told him he was too…we bet and went to a bookstore.
He said “I guess I’ll call you a gringo then….told him…so you think I’m Greek?…couldn’t get another bet. :)
 
pt109 said:
There are 23 countries in North America….the ones in Central America are included. ...
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So the map is colored correctly but the text lists don't match. The division of the WPA regions is more along language spoken than map makers' notion of continents for the Americas. I think that's probably for the best.
 
MajorMiscue said:
"Gringo" indicates someone not fluent in Spanish, nothing more.
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We’ve had this out on AZ before….check the etymology.
Your current situation might reflect the current usage in your area but it’s not the history of the word.
 
pt109 said:
We’ve had this out on AZ before….check the etymology.
Your current situation might reflect the current usage in your area but it’s not the history of the word.
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This is how it was explained to me:
In a 1787 dictionary, El Diccionario Castellano, Esteban de Terreros explained: "Foreigners in Malaga are called gringos, who have particular kinds of accent that deprive them from easy and natural Castilian speech, and in Madrid the name is given especially to the Irish for the same reason." (Irish soldiers joined the Spanish army in the sixteenth through eighteenth centuries, so Spaniards would have been familiar with their "gibberish.")

In other words, people who didn't speak good Spanish. I've never heard it used with negative connotations here, but it could be due to the non combative nature of Ticos.
 
MajorMiscue said:
This is how it was explained to me:
In a 1787 dictionary, El Diccionario Castellano, Esteban de Terreros explained: "Foreigners in Malaga are called gringos, who have particular kinds of accent that deprive them from easy and natural Castilian speech, and in Madrid the name is given especially to the Irish for the same reason." (Irish soldiers joined the Spanish army in the sixteenth through eighteenth centuries, so Spaniards would have been familiar with their "gibberish.")

In other words, people who didn't speak good Spanish. I've never heard it used with negative connotations here, but it could be due to the non combative nature of Ticos.
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i think many other spanish speaking people would disagree
to me when i learned spanish gringo was not a flattering term to call someone
 
Bob Jewett said:
So the map is colored correctly but the text lists don't match. The division of the WPA regions is more along language spoken than map makers' notion of continents for the Americas. I think that's probably for the best.
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I’ve been thinking about this, Bob.
I would agree to calling this group Latin America. I don’t like a geographic location being re-assigned….somewhat like making the 5-ball purple.
 
pt109 said:
I’ve been thinking about this, Bob.
I would agree to calling this group Latin America. I don’t like a geographic location being re-assigned….somewhat like making the 5-ball purple.
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Or maybe Northern Americas and Southern Americas.
 
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