Question to Mezz owners regarding stiff screwing

M4verick

M4verick

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Hi,

yesterday I received brand new Mezz EC7 cue. I played with it today and I love it, the craftmanship is astonishing, and I love the balance and the stiff hit the cue provides. It will be a worthy substiturion to my Macdermott + 314-2 cue.

But I got 1 question, what's bothering me is that the cue is relatively difficult to screw together. The tolerances are amazing and the whole screwing motion is fluid but I have to use moderate force to do it. Especially at the last turn.

I'm positively sure that I'm screwing the cue propertly, but just in case, did you have the same experience with your cue ? Will it loosen with time or is it permanent ? The joint is stainless steel to stainless steel so I don't believe it will "break in" and come looser with time...
 
M4verick said:
Hi,

yesterday I received brand new Mezz EC7 cue. I played with it today and I love it, the craftmanship is astonishing, and I love the balance and the stiff hit the cue provides. It will be a worthy substiturion to my Macdermott + 314-2 cue.

But I got 1 question, what's bothering me is that the cue is relatively difficult to screw together. The tolerances are amazing and the whole screwing motion is fluid but I have to use moderate force to do it. Especially at the last turn.

I'm positively sure that I'm screwing the cue propertly, but just in case, did you have the same experience with your cue ? Will it loosen with time or is it permanent ? The joint is stainless steel to stainless steel so I don't believe it will "break in" and come looser with time...
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I borrowed a mate's Axi once, and thought the joint was very strange indeed - not bad, or wrong, just weird. I also found it difficult to screw together. I thought it was just his, but it sounds exactly like you describe.

What's the EC7 like to play with? I nearly bought one a week or two ago from Ozone, who had one for sale for about $360. I dithered and it was sold.
 
If it was EC7-WKK model It might be exactly the one I bought.

The balance of the cue is amazing. I ordered 20oz cue and the balance is in the exact spot where I like it (around 18 inches from the butt) so it's rather rearweighted cue.

The hit is crisp and solid because of the WD700 being non laminated, I had been playng with predators lately and wanted to switch to something less soft. I ordered the cue with kamui black medium and I love the combo alot.

The cue is rather subtle in looking, all black and non distinctive, one wouldn't guess it's a 600$ piece of production craftmanship. I especially like the butt design and the fact that the rubber does not cover too much area of the cue (compare McDermott bumper for example).

I couldn't be more happy with the cue at the moment. I will probably never look back to the predators again.
 
The one I was thinking about was a EC7-C - the cocobolo one, I think. I wasn't struck on cocobola as such, but for $360 with an upgraded leather wrap and a Kamui black medium, I thought it was a great deal. Trouble was, Ozone wouldn't help me out with customs, so I passed on it.

I think your McDermott is a great deal BTW.
 
The tight screw in is designed to be that way so that it doesnt loosen over any amount of time..

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Mezz cues and Southwest cues are two makers in particular that always had super tight joints. There may be more out there, and my exposure may be limited. I have always been impressed with a pretty tight joint, but in the case of SW and Mezz, I've actually seen some cues that were so tight, that it was difficult to tell when to stop turning because you never felt sudden increase in tension when the two faces meet. So you almost wonder if you have the cue completely put together, or turned in all the way. One fix for this is dip your pin in some melted candle wax. It seems to lubricate without being absorbed into the wood like an oil based lube might. I've heard this from well known cue makers as well as talented repair guys, and it's worked for me. (but ya never know, for every one of me, there will be hundreds out there that think it's somehow a bad idea, harmful to your cue, or in some way or another have a bad affect on how you use CTE)

dave
 
My Mezz screws together just as you've explained. I've never had a problem unscrewing it either, just nice tight tolerances.

I'm sure we've all heard the story of a German company sending a Japanese one a screw that was super tiny.......the Japanese company drilled, tapped, and sent it back with a screw inside.
 
Mezz started as a cue componet company , joints being one of thier specialties ,, between that joint and that WD 700 shaft you have one of the best playing cues bar none IMHO




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I kept reading down the thread waiting for someone to address the title...at least the OP got his question answered first! :grin:

To the OP...yes, the United Joint is designed specifically that way. Someone else mentioned SW cues, but I've heard the United Joint is more akin to Lambros's Ultra-Joint. :)
 
I'll shamefuly bump my own thread but I was wondering about one thing.

Does the tight Mezz joints can increase the joint wear over time ? Afterall it's steel to steel contact. Maybe i'm overreacting with that, but should I be worried about that ?
 
When I first saw the title, I thought I was accidentally on the other site I always visit.

Freddie <~~~ the Snookah Forum, that is
 
Just apply a little wax and you'll be amazed at how smooth it becomes. It will still have that excellent fit, but will be easier to put together and take apart.

You can use a floor wax like you get at Home Depot, etc. Or you can wipe across the screw with a chapstick which is easier and cheaper.

Try it.
 
its supposed to be like that, its also what contribute to its stiff and solid hit! i hear alot of top cue makers also have very tight fitting joint, the pilot is alotted to that.
 
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randallt6 said:
its supposed to be like that, its also what contribute to its stiff and solid hit! i hear alot of top cue makers also have very tight fitting joint, the pilot is alotted to that.
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A tight fitting joint is very desirable.
All the Blue Grass Cues I've owned had very tight fitting joints and are my favorite feeling cues.
The three SW's I had were a fairly tight fit also.
The Black Boar I had fit very tightly too.
All three of those tight fitting cues were among the most solid and best feeling hit I have experienced.
Blue Grass Cues were my favorite, then the Black Boar, then the SW's.
Only worry if it is a loose fitting joint.
 
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