Radial pins

Thanks Joe

Hey by the way Mister Joe Barringer, great products. I have ordered some shafts and a cocobolo blank from your company and they are amazing quality. Just wish you would stock radial pins and radial studs so i can do my shopping all in one place.
 
Enigmaticul said:
I figure i will explain this phrase because it seem that its connotations are way above some peoples heads.

Actually the slogan is very old and i have no idea where it originated.

I first heard it from my grandfather who was a master engineer.


The idea behind this is that true mastery in any field (mostly manual and industrial) is "stolen" from previous masters. You sit by them and watch what they do, and then you do the same thing.

But there are 2 types of masters in the field. Those that consider it a honor to teach and will teach any one willing to listen and don't really care about "trade secrets" that so many cue makers seem so hang up on and then are the masters that don't like to teach. Those are the ones you "steel" from because if they will not teach you but you have a passion to learn you will sit by them and watch what they do and you do the same thing.



Example

I went to the derby strictly to talk with cue makers. From Mister Jacoby to Joe BLackburn they were all amazing people to talk to.

Steve Lomax was there with his repair lathe. I could not just walk up there and be like Hey Steve teach me how to put a leather wrap on like you (he does amazing stuff its really hard to find the seam). So i stole some knowledge. How? By watching him put a wrap on and memorize the steps, exact tools used, materials and so forth. Frankly i did have questions while he was putting the wrap on but him being a master i don't doubt his way and just follow his procedure to a tee. Now just by watching him i will not be able to right away put a wrap just like him but i am on the right track.

Eventually i got to talk with him about wraps when i mustered up the courage to ask him. He actually was a very nice supportive guy and told me to keep learning and asking question and eventually one day it will come.

Funny thing is that he did not have nice things to say about AZ.


Any how maybe this brings some light over the "steeling" part that seems to bug so many people.
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Buy 20 pieces of low end leather from atlas or superior cues.
Start making leather install scrap .
It won't be cheap.
You might need a Cnc quality insert to cut square shoulders .
In Dreamland, all shoulders are totally square , all leather pieces
are in perfect thickness and all wrap grooves are perfect .
And all finishes don't lift with blue tape.

Lomax is a master wrapper. So are Mike Webb. Kenny Koo and Scott Gracio
IMO outside of Ernie G.
I bet they had a few scraps before they got there.

Might as well buy cheap dowels to tune up your taperer.

If this venture doesn't make you cry a few times, that'd mean you
quit early
 
Lol

Love your imput Joey, heard good things about you. I had some success with leather wraps on a couple of jump cues that had a straight handle. They look ok, not Lomax Ok but decent. I actually have not installed a one piece leather wrap on a cue before because i don't have the jig to cut the taper in the leather. Tried a lot of time manually with disastrous results. One was decent........ ish. So as for leather wraps now i offer any kind as long as it is stack leather. lol. Its all i can do for now and they actually look very nice.:thumbup:

Still quite a bit away from putting a one piece on. Trying to save money to but the magic wrap fixture. Failing:angry:
 
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