Ramp gauge that gauges what?

Dartman

Dartman

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Does this thing come with tech specs to measure:
Cushion bounce?
Cushion trueness?
Cloth speed?

I can see where the ball rolling off the ramp will be consistent to help check level "by eye".
I can't see a ball rolling off it traveling the length of a 9' table.
And IMO, Over 200,000 sold is questionable.

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Dartman said:
Does this thing come with tech specs to measure:
Cushion bounce?
Cushion trueness?
Cloth speed?

I can see where the ball rolling off the ramp will be consistent to help check level "by eye".
I can't see a ball rolling off it traveling the length of a 9' table.
And IMO, Over 200,000 sold is questionable.

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Looks like false advertising to me!
Take a quick poll... How many members of AZ have at least one of these in their cuecase or at home!

I'll be the first to admit that i don't have one.
Next!:thumbup:
 
I can see where the ball rolling off the ramp will be consistent to help check level "by eye".Quote "DARTMAN"

Well, i hope everybody checks their finished table by "eye" when they are done! As far as the ball traveling the length of the table, with a little nudge, i can certainly guarantee it WILL! Do you think you will get a more acurate roll by hand or stick?

Mechanics have been using these for a long time, i have a antique one from the 20s.
 
scruffy1 said:
Well, i hope everybody checks their finished table by "eye" when they are done! As far as the ball traveling the length of the table, with a little nudge, i can certainly guarantee it WILL! Do you think you will get a more acurate roll by hand or stick?
Mechanics have been using these for a long time, i have a antique one from the 20s.
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I think you're missing the point.
Read the ad and tell me it does all these wonderful things.
 
Rick, that is known as a gullibility guage. And did you know that knaive is NOT in the dictionary?
 
Mr Penguin said:
Rick, that is known as a gullibility guage. And did you know that knaive is NOT in the dictionary?
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LOL
I also wonder how many blocks of wood cut to 1 7/16" we could make for $8.50
These would obviously be more accurate then a tape measure.
 
You're definitely onto something. I'll have the prototype by 2:00 today. How many do you need?
 
Dartman said:
I think you're missing the point.
Read the ad and tell me it does all these wonderful things.
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Rick, I got your point! My point is one of our regular posters posted this tool and now you have started a separate thread knocking it!

Yes , the claims are exagerrated but some of the features work! No,
i would not spend 25.00 on their model. Mine is made of machined alum.
and tolerance is .0003. So it is very precise. I guarantee you will not roll or shoot a ball this straight consistently.
 
scruffy1 said:
... Yes , the claims are exagerrated but some of the features work! ...
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The only redeeming feature of this thing is the implied consistentcy of the ball rolling off of the chute
and any reference to accuracy would mandate that the "same" ball be used on each roll.

I'm not trying to flame 911 but I am saying the ad for this thing is BS.

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Rick, yes you are right. We use our OWN ball, a brunswick blue circle that
came with our ramp. Works quite well. And yes,the ad is b.s.
 
cushion accuracy

Testing for cushion accuracy as published by Championship.
For arguments sake let's assume the cushions are installed correctly.

"To prove that Championship's line of billiard cushions outperform the competition, we developed a simple objective test. We rolled a ball down a stationery ramp at 3 different speeds. The ramp was aimed so that the ball would rebound off of 3 rails and into the opposite corner pocket from where the ball originally came from (application of the diamond principle). Speed 1 was rolled with just enough speed so that the object ball could make it all the way around the table. Speed 2 was a little faster than speed 1 (replicating a medium speed shot). Speed 3 was rolled with substantially more speed replicating a hard shot."
 
I got one a few yrs ago, it's a little tuff to not move it at all while you are trying to get repeat rolls on it. You really have to have a way that it wont move to get good results with it. The instructions said to do it 10 times or more and then see what the results are and then average them out .

Heres a poor video of it in action on my Gandy Hustler 8 OS with Titan cloth on it. I think it would go across a 9 ft table if the cloth is tight. My cloth is super tight because it is an 8 ft cloth I got stuck with so I installed it on my own table.

http://s168.photobucket.com/albums/u165/rjh02/?action=view&current=PICT0001-1.flv


I dont think it sucks but it's not what they hype it up to be.
 
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mechanic/player said:
... The instructions said to do it 10 times or more and then see what the results are and then average them out ...
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I'm curious so when you get a minute can you post -

What other "tests" the instructions cover?

What does averaging 10 rolls tell you?
 
Dartman said:
LOL
I also wonder how many blocks of wood cut to 1 7/16" we could make for $8.50
These would obviously be more accurate then a tape measure.
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too late Rick, D & R sells them for $5.00, I own 2 of them.
 
My memory was a little off .

It is important to utilize a bench mark in testing any cushion.Whether the table is a 7,8, or 9 the back of the ball ramp should be 38" from the cushion and square to the oppisite cushion as well.(Use a framing square for best results)

Place a new high quality 2 1/4 " cue ball at the top of the ramp,holding it there with your finger. Gently release the ball, allowing it to roll down the ramp into the cushion, rebounding and finaly comming to a stop. Now, measure the roll distance from the nose of the cushion being tested.The distance should be no less than 20". The test should be repeated several times in each spot chosen to test and in at least 3 sections of each rail to be thorough.

Other things it does are:

Rail height-On the side of the ramp is a cut to be held at the nose of the rail to check the cushion height.It shold be 1 13/32 for proper rebound of a 2 1/4 ball.

Pocket measurement-The opening for corner and side pockets can be checked by the grooves on the side of the ramp.

Surface speed-By placing the ramp against the end rail, and allowing the ball to roll down the ramp, the different distances of the ball can be used as a speed indicator.

Ball roundness-When a ball is not perfectly round it will roll in different directions each time. A perfectly round ball will always roll in the same direction.

Level- Table level can be measured by rolling a high quality ball from one end of the table and observed.

p.s. If any one wants to buy mine I will sell it shipped for $11.00
 
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dartman said:
I also wonder how many blocks of wood cut to 1 7/16" we could make for $8.50
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Speaking only of the Rail Height Gauge I meant if I buy an 8' length of wood for $8.50 then how many 1/7/16" blocks could I get from it. LOL - and we would have sold them for .99

sdbilliards said:
too late Rick, D & R sells them for $5.00, I own 2 of them.
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On the questionable rail testing tool - Who's D&R?
You don't mean Championship do you?

BTW - cool new avatar
 
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