Randy G

Randy Goettlicher

Just my two cts from overseas,

Even if Randy is on the other side of the pond-- when I was having a really hard times in 2009/2010 bounded at home bc of healthy issues, I spent next to sleepin the rest of the day in Internet. Here i "found Randy". I ve read everything from him. He gave me so much help, even if we never met in person. And i sincerely hope, that Randy knows and understands, how much this meant to me.

But what is much more important to me:
Next to the fact, that he is a treasure of knowledge-- he had the very most influence on me to "make me burn" more than ever for instructing and teaching.

He just has it. I wish i could spend really some quality time with this wonderful person and great instructor.

Best from overseas.
 
Randy, again, my message to you is sitting in your private message in box right here on AZ. So rather than make me contact you again through one of your other contact sources, you could always just check you inbox here. One click away...
 
CJH said:
Randy, again, my message to you is sitting in your private message in box right here on AZ. So rather than make me contact you again through one of your other contact sources, you could always just check you inbox here. One click away...
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Or you could just call him. Just one phone call away. Saves all that time waiting for replies.
 
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gxman said:
I think just practicing a few hrs daily for a yr would jump a player from 3 to 5 if the player posess decent fundamentals.
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There is perfect practice, and then there is practicing perfectly. So, yes, there are some that have natural mechanics and will improve greatly by themselves. No doubt, I've seen these folks. But even they had some "help" along the way, learned something here and there, watch this or that guy, studied the game/strategy. Just natural sponges.

But, I've been playing league far too long to see the same person shooting at the same level for years, some times decades. No, they are not sandbaggers, they just are not very good.

They don't know how to get better, they don't know their mechanics are poor, they don't know what drills to work on. They still don't even focus on the key ball, even though they have zero chance of running out, they need to know it because eventually they are going to make some balls and they might as well know which balls to save for last.

I've met folks that have been playing for YEARS that still do not know the tangent line. They are just guessing, or doing what they know from experience. But without knowing the exactness of it, they are not getting the position they need to step up their game. By not mastering the stop and stun shot, they really are hurting their game.

Everyone keeps telling me that pool is hard? Yet, then folks just come around and say "ah, just practice and you'll get good"

I'll bet very few amateur baseball pitchers have not had lessons with a qualified pitching coach. I'm not talking about a "dad coach", but a coach for hire.

Most folks are not going to make the HS baseball team without it, no matter how many pitches they throw, cause there is more to it. There are "throwers" and there are "pitchers", and coaches want pitchers.

One day, when my son was about 12, we went to the batting cages. He saw the best pitcher in the league taking a pitching lesson. He looked at me and said why is Chris here ? I said he's taking a pitching lesson. My son replied, but he already knows how to pitch? I told him, he knows how to pitch to 12 year olds, he's looking beyond this, and wants to get better, so he can get pitch against 13 year olds.

He also wants to improve and get ready for High School in 2 more years. From the date forward, I saw my son finally understand if he wants to be a good player, he has to put the time in.

He finally wanted to practice all the time, and "listen" to others, and he had a monster year from that point forward. He became a catcher that year, and only position I never played, and off he went to the "pro" coaches, for a lot of instruction on catching. Probably at least 100 hours he put in on one on one instruction, as well as group catching clinics over the next 2 years.

I know that folks will say, oh, but he's a kid, he has to learn. Well, most folks in pool league didn't play pool as a kid, and that puts them in about the same boat being in their 20's or 30's, that are just starting to learn the game, right ?
 
Excellent post RJ...and right on target! There is nothing like seeing the "light" go on for somebody who has no idea about lots of things pool. This happens to include many really good players. They have their experience, but it doesn't match up to real mechanics knowledge...and most especially, how to practice properly!

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

ChicagoRJ said:
There is perfect practice, and then there is practicing perfectly. So, yes, there are some that have natural mechanics and will improve greatly by themselves. No doubt, I've seen these folks. But even they had some "help" along the way, learned something here and there, watch this or that guy, studied the game/strategy. Just natural sponges.

But, I've been playing league far too long to see the same person shooting at the same level for years, some times decades. No, they are not sandbaggers, they just are not very good.

They don't know how to get better, they don't know their mechanics are poor, they don't know what drills to work on. They still don't even focus on the key ball, even though they have zero chance of running out, they need to know it because eventually they are going to make some balls and they might as well know which balls to save for last.

I've met folks that have been playing for YEARS that still do not know the tangent line. They are just guessing, or doing what they know from experience. But without knowing the exactness of it, they are not getting the position they need to step up their game. By not mastering the stop and stun shot, they really are hurting their game.

Everyone keeps telling me that pool is hard? Yet, then folks just come around and say "ah, just practice and you'll get good"

I'll bet very few amateur baseball pitchers have not had lessons with a qualified pitching coach. I'm not talking about a "dad coach", but a coach for hire.

Most folks are not going to make the HS baseball team without it, no matter how many pitches they throw, cause there is more to it. There are "throwers" and there are "pitchers", and coaches want pitchers.

One day, when my son was about 12, we went to the batting cages. He saw the best pitcher in the league taking a pitching lesson. He looked at me and said why is Chris here ? I said he's taking a pitching lesson. My son replied, but he already knows how to pitch? I told him, he knows how to pitch to 12 year olds, he's looking beyond this, and wants to get better, so he can get pitch against 13 year olds.

He also wants to improve and get ready for High School in 2 more years. From the date forward, I saw my son finally understand if he wants to be a good player, he has to put the time in.

He finally wanted to practice all the time, and "listen" to others, and he had a monster year from that point forward. He became a catcher that year, and only position I never played, and off he went to the "pro" coaches, for a lot of instruction on catching. Probably at least 100 hours he put in on one on one instruction, as well as group catching clinics over the next 2 years.

I know that folks will say, oh, but he's a kid, he has to learn. Well, most folks in pool league didn't play pool as a kid, and that puts them in about the same boat being in their 20's or 30's, that are just starting to learn the game, right ?
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Yesterday I went to my local pool hall ran a straight in drill that I always start with to check my stroke. Someone I've never seen before ask if I wanted to play a game we must of played 20 games. He ran the table more times than I can count. It took a a couple of hours he was showing me a few things about my bridge and reading the table tell I started making him work for it I won maybe 3 games. I had a great time even losing like that I was learning. Told him about going to see Randy and showed him online what classes I was going to. He was all for it and wants to play when I get back. When I play a better players I ask questions and let them know that it's ok to point things out to me. I see some players that think they know it all and won't listen and get mad when they lose what's the point if you're not willing to listen you're never gonna get better. I can't wait for June. I'm worried of I have bad fundamentals and play everyday won't I just need to work that much harder to change my bad habits when I go to Dallas?
 
Ironhead1970 said:
Yesterday I went to my local pool hall ran a straight in drill that I always start with to check my stroke. Someone I've never seen before ask if I wanted to play a game we must of played 20 games. He ran the table more times than I can count. It took a a couple of hours he was showing me a few things about my bridge and reading the table tell I started making him work for it I won maybe 3 games. I had a great time even losing like that I was learning. Told him about going to see Randy and showed him online what classes I was going to. He was all for it and wants to play when I get back. When I play a better players I ask questions and let them know that it's ok to point things out to me. I see some players that think they know it all and won't listen and get mad when they lose what's the point if you're not willing to listen you're never gonna get better. I can't wait for June. I'm worried of I have bad fundamentals and play everyday won't I just need to work that much harder to change my bad habits when I go to Dallas?
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This forum is a poor place to talk personally.
my email is
goettlicher@verizon.net

Please don't work on your Fundamentals alone. Wait until you are in Dallas to get them correct.

BAD HABITS ARE HARD TO BREAK!

randyg
 
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