cluelesscuer
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Predator 314-2 vs. OB-1 vs. Mezz Hybrid Pro vs. Lucassi Hybrid vs. McDermott I-2 vs. Jacoby Edge Hybrid vs. Tiger Ultra-X LD?????
Who wins?
Who loses?
Who wins?
Who loses?
Rankings for LD shafts
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FYI, there is some data available here:
Regards,
Dave
I wish I had seen this info before buying my TIger X-Pro. I definitely have not been very impressed with its low deflection properties, and I have the 11.75 model.
LD shafts have both advantages and disadvantages.
The player is much more important than the shaft.
Regards,
Dave
I'm in big trouble.
What's most interesting to me is you still have to compensate for deflection no matter if its a z shaft or a 3 dollar kmart shaft
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True, you can't beat physics - well, at least not yet with current equipment...
However, in theory the LD shafts are more accurate for the average player, by limiting the deflection you also compress the range of error that can occur. But give me a good player with a standard shaft who knows how to compensate for deflection, curve, etc. and I'll take them anyday over someone with an LD shaft who doesn't understand those things...
Scott
However, in theory the LD shafts are more accurate for the average player, by limiting the deflection you also compress the range of error that can occur. But give me a good player with a standard shaft who knows how to compensate for deflection, curve, etc. and I'll take them anyday over someone with an LD shaft who doesn't understand those things...
Scott
You do realize that the model listed is not the X-Pro but the X-shaft which is 12.75mm with no advertised LD properties?
This is the same list that is always referred to, but I wish we had more of these. It's not very complete - it doesn't have OB-2 or my OB classic pro, for example, despite the popularity of OB cues and shafts. And it's only one tester. It would be nice to see more independent testers do this. Deflection is probably the most important shaft property, so why aren't there more lists like this one?
... only if that player is bridging close to the natural pivot length of the cue and doesn't use english much.
This effect is certainly important for a better player who has a decent feel for how to compensate for squirt, swerve, and throw. FYI, for those interested, the following article discusses and illustrates this effect:
"Squirt - Part V: low-squirt cues" (BD, December, 2007)
Well stated. I agree 100%.
Regards,
Dave
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If it is a 5/16 14 I will give you $75 for it to help you move on to the perfect shaft. I hate to see people suffer.
If it is a 5/16 14 I will give you $75 for it to help you move on to the perfect shaft. I hate to see people suffer.
... probably because it takes lots of time, money, expertise, and effort to design and build useful cue-testing machines, and it takes lots of care, time, and effort to get accurate, impartial, and consistent results. For more info, see:
Regards,
Dave
What you really mean to say is you don't want to give up those custom shafts. I don't blame you.
If you're shooting a rifle would it be easier to adjust to a little wind or a lot of wind? Eitherway you have to adjust but it would be illogical to prefer shooting in strong wind if you want to hit your target right?
I recently acquired an OB-2 and Z2 in 5/16-14 and have been playing with both. I can tell very little difference in the two, Perhaps the OB has a slightly better feel. I prefer both over the traditional maple shaft. I have a Jacoby Hybrid and SDS 360 on order to fit G10 and are also 11.75 mm. I'm anxious to try those out as well. I've played with a Jacoby Hybrid that is 12.75 and the feel was excellent.
I'm about 99% sure that all Tiger shafts from day 1 were low deflection (squirt) shafts. They have changed their design over the years, but were always marketed and designed as a low deflection shaft.
I agree, nob.
Looking forward to what you think of the other shafts. If you don't want to make an entire post, PM me with some brief thoughts if you would be so kind.
It might be a good idea to put the date when that Platinum chart was current. I think they removed it from their site well over 5 years ago. Maybe it can be found out from the way back machine, I don't know.
Had Platinum Billiards done deflection tests using same pivot points for each shaft brand; are there any data with this criteria. Thanks.
If a company takes an order for a shaft to "fit a G10" I would be very concerned. G10 is a type of material and can be made in any thread type. If you didn't also include that info on your shaft orders, you may want to call and confirm your pin thread type so there isn't any confusion.