the old satin cue were made for customers that had a custom cues on order. no marking on the pin with these... this plain cue with a catus is few and far between. Jerry era and after cues are the same, top quality cues, same specs. Al has been around for a long time and will continue to put out quality cues. Jerry was a master learning from David.... having a cue built by him is like a piece of art and history..... this is why you have to wait 8 years now if you order one..... Hats off to everyone at SouthWest