Rare Video found on YouTube of Honest John
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vagabond said:renard said:A little known fact about Johnny Archer is that he had a mentor named, "Honest John."
This is the only video that I know that exists of Honest John. If you check the link you will find Johnny Archers mentor displaying the finer points of pool.
Johnny of course soon passed his mentor ability by a wide margin. But see if you can pick up some of Johnny's mannerisms in his mentors game on this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEIUW5Rslrc
Till I saw the video I was confused.I should have known if Johny Archer was mentored by `Honest John`.There is a real life pool Hustler by name `honest John` in gainsville, FL. I am not aware of such relationship between Johny and `honest John`.Video clip cleared my confusion.It was a good clip.
Sorry about the confusion Vagabond!!! I put a little wink and smile at the bottom of the post.
That is to funny that a guy actually has the moniker of "Honest John." I wonder if it actually came about from this W.C. Fields flick?
Anyway I died laughing at W.C. mannerisms and I noticed a few were familiar in a way...
I have nothing against Johnny and as a matter of fact I have a few mannerisms of my own that might resemble Johnny's shooting as well!!!
With the exception that I only have a sixteenth of his talent... that's stretching it!!!
The real Honest John out of Gainesville maybe one of the top hustlers ever. His speed really never exceeded shortstop level but he is one of the guys that consistently got himself into spots where the bet was high and he was matched up in a mortal lock. Like getting other shortstops to spot him the 6 out for $$$$.
When I was in college at UF in the late 80s, Stevie Moore lived for a while in Gville and ran all over the country with Stevie, or "junior" as John called him. John would make the game and Stevie benefited greatly from John's ability to stir it up.
If there is a Wikipedia image of "back woods mountain man hick" its Johns picture. He has a slow southern drawl and is pretty furry with a stocky build. He plays sorta standing up and jumps up off of most of his shots, but he has a good follow through and I have seen him run 2-3 racks pretty effortlessly. What really makes Honest John super strong at hustling though is his gift of gab...he can talk and talk and the whole time you begin to think..well damn this guy really did just fall of the turnip truck. Anyways, I give you this image of him so you can better understand this story.
John has been working this spot for a while. He comes in with work clothes on, all covered in grease and dirt and is basically talking shit about how good he is and how he can beat anyone. John keeps telling them he will play them soon as he gets this big check he has got coming. Finally after days of jawing to the locals, the house is pretty much worked up to a real lather wanting to get this loudmouth to the table. John shows up with a big fat wad of money and after some more woofing he says ok now im going to get my cue. He returns with a Budweiser cue with a dayglo vibrant fishing line wrap. The locals cant wait to get down. "Lemme warm up a bit" he says and takes a few shots and then "bink!" the tip flies off his cue. "w'alll dayyyyum I cant play now...my lucky cue is broke". The railbirds are falling over themselves telling him oh dont worry use my Schon/Meucci/McDermott. "Nope I can't play without my luuuuckkky cue". The locals begin woofing at him about all the shit he was talking and John says...well y'allll are so terrible...iyall find someone here to play y'all right now. The locals look around and the room is practically empty with one group of folks playing bar pool and drinking pitchers. John walks over and grabs a guy who looks like he just got off work at the Shell gas station. "this guy right here will play yall" Honest John has just "found" David Grossman.
When I was in college at UF in the late 80s, Stevie Moore lived for a while in Gville and ran all over the country with Stevie, or "junior" as John called him. John would make the game and Stevie benefited greatly from John's ability to stir it up.
If there is a Wikipedia image of "back woods mountain man hick" its Johns picture. He has a slow southern drawl and is pretty furry with a stocky build. He plays sorta standing up and jumps up off of most of his shots, but he has a good follow through and I have seen him run 2-3 racks pretty effortlessly. What really makes Honest John super strong at hustling though is his gift of gab...he can talk and talk and the whole time you begin to think..well damn this guy really did just fall of the turnip truck. Anyways, I give you this image of him so you can better understand this story.
John has been working this spot for a while. He comes in with work clothes on, all covered in grease and dirt and is basically talking shit about how good he is and how he can beat anyone. John keeps telling them he will play them soon as he gets this big check he has got coming. Finally after days of jawing to the locals, the house is pretty much worked up to a real lather wanting to get this loudmouth to the table. John shows up with a big fat wad of money and after some more woofing he says ok now im going to get my cue. He returns with a Budweiser cue with a dayglo vibrant fishing line wrap. The locals cant wait to get down. "Lemme warm up a bit" he says and takes a few shots and then "bink!" the tip flies off his cue. "w'alll dayyyyum I cant play now...my lucky cue is broke". The railbirds are falling over themselves telling him oh dont worry use my Schon/Meucci/McDermott. "Nope I can't play without my luuuuckkky cue". The locals begin woofing at him about all the shit he was talking and John says...well y'allll are so terrible...iyall find someone here to play y'all right now. The locals look around and the room is practically empty with one group of folks playing bar pool and drinking pitchers. John walks over and grabs a guy who looks like he just got off work at the Shell gas station. "this guy right here will play yall" Honest John has just "found" David Grossman.
I'm glad you bumped it, Renard! That is the funniest routine I've ever seen about the break shot!! It's been years since I've seen that. I defy any poolplayer to watch it without doubling over in laughter!renard said:
Cheers~ Doc
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Here's another Fields (silent) in which he shows mastery of the break shot far beyond modern nine-ballers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kToO5B9ZMEgulfportdoc said:
It takes a while to get to the pool.