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20120719_160731.jpgI have a Gold Crown #3.
The seam between 2 pieces of slate (the end & middle piece) has moved up just a hair. The end piece is higher than the middle.
It is from the middle of the table to the rail ( faint in ctr of pic). This part of slate was shimmed up when installed. How do I loosen these panels of slate to remove or raise shims to re-level? Iv'e looked on U-Tube but can't find what bolts to loosen.

Thanks,
Poolblues
 
you will have to take the 18 rail bolts off, pull the whole rails, aprons and castings in one piece. take the cloth off, recheck level, wedge seams on both sides, redo both seams would be wise since the cloth is off, put the cloth back on , put the rails back ,bolt everything tight...if you want it perfect and don't have to do it again, it is better to get a mech to do it.
 
Thanks For The Info. Iv'e heard I could cut the cloth over the bolt holes & possibly loosen them that way but I'm not sure i wish to do that.
 
whoever told you that is a hack. there's only one right way to go and it's to relevel and reseam.
 
cutting the cloth won't even give you access to the slate screws as they are angled underneath the cushions. no place for a screwdriver. also, you won't be able to get a perfect seam just by wedging so the only real option is to take the cloth off and redo level,wedging,seaming...
 
If it was mine and the cloth was half worn out, I would try to pull the rail bolts , slide the top over to the side enough to be able to get at the angled screw, you will probably need to remove the pocket liners. Cut a small slit, loosen the slate screw enough to back out the shim, and reattach the rails. You will probably have to remove the side skirt to get at the shim. It comes off with a couple of screws and about a half dozen bolts.
It's not the correct way of doing it. But It will work and get you bye until the next new cloth install. The small slit will be hardly noticeable and have no effect on playability.
If this is after a new install , I would call the mechanic back and have him fix it the right way. :)
 
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If you are going to do all of that work, to fix the seam (which you should) then consider putting new cloth back on the bed and rails, if what you have is a bit worn.
 
Tony_in_MD said:
If you are going to do all of that work, to fix the seam (which you should) then consider putting new cloth back on the bed and rails, if what you have is a bit worn.
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I agree! If I'm going to pull back the cloth, I'm replacing it and doing it right if it's at all worn.
 
Shaky1 said:
If it was mine and the cloth was half worn out, I would try to pull the rail bolts , slide the top over to the side enough to be able to get at the angled screw, you will probably need to remove the pocket liners. Cut a small slit, loosen the slate screw enough to back out the shim, and reattach the rails. You will probably have to remove the side skirt to get at the shim. It comes off with a couple of screws and about a half dozen bolts.
It's not the correct way of doing it. But It will work and get you bye until the next new cloth install. The small slit will be hardly noticeable and have no effect on playability.
If this is after a new install , I would call the mechanic back and have him fix it the right way. :)
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and how will you reseam with the cloth still on?
 
You don't. It will still be more playable than it is now. The seam has already popped. At least you can level it better and use it until it gets recovered in the future. I have done it before. It will work. Will it be perfect? No.
 
the right way takes me half an hour to fix. your's would probably take me twice...
 
I'm sure that you can do it in half an hour. The people that recovered mine a few years ago did the whole table in about 4 hours. They were the "hacks". There was nothing right about that 4 hour install. How fast it can be done should not enter the equation. Ask R.K.C about the 4 hour install that was done on my table before he fixed it right!
I gave him a way to do it for free, that will allow him to wear out a little more of the carpet he has on there now and save up his pennies for later.
Is he comfortable with re-seaming the table?
When it's time to replace the cloth, the seam can be fixed and the slates re leveled.
Sure, if he has the money, I would recommend a mechanic. I would not pull the staples/ glue without replacing the cloth, unless it's fairly new. That calls for a mechanic if you want it done right. One that does not use a time clock.
 
i do agree that time is not part of the equation. what i was trying to say is that it is still less goofing around to do it the right way.
 
For you, that is the case.
He is not a mechanic. My way may be easier as a temp fix even if it takes a little longer. If he does not do the re-seam properly, he may as well leave it alone.
If he wants it 100% right he should call a mechanic.
 
if the seam was done with plaster or bondo, when it busts, you will have chunks everywhere . if it is done with wax, what was in the seam will rise above playing surface. there's no temporary seam fixing imo, if you try to wedge it back in place with the cloth on, it'll drive you nuts. unless you don't care about that table, you have to take the cloth off.
 
Like I said before, I have done it and it will work a lot better than it does now.
If it's wax, it can be heated and it will melt. If it's plaster , you can wet it and tap it. If it's bondo, there is not too much to do with it. It will still be better than it is now no matter what it is.
 
if you go somewhere, you take the shortest road and get from point a to point b. why bother wasting time to get halfway, turn back and wait for someone to give you a ride? you see where i'm going?
 
I see!
Now let me ask you something? You are driving down the road and your exhaust system falls to the ground, do you consider yourself stuck, call a tow truck and get the system instantly repaired? Or do you wire it back up and drive it till payday? I would do option 2 :wink:
Nothing has ever been done by someone who says something won't work.
 
poolblues said:
View attachment 233661I have a Gold Crown #3.
The seam between 2 pieces of slate (the end & middle piece) has moved up just a hair. The end piece is higher than the middle.
It is from the middle of the table to the rail ( faint in ctr of pic). This part of slate was shimmed up when installed. How do I loosen these panels of slate to remove or raise shims to re-level? Iv'e looked on U-Tube but can't find what bolts to loosen.

Thanks,
Poolblues
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Before you do anything look underneath the table and see if wedges were used to
shim the center slate. If so try tapping the wedge(s) in to raise that part of the slate that dropped.
 
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