I guy I used to shoot with years ago bought a JossWest second hand off a guy in Columbus GA...beautiful four point/four veneer with some nice ivory in it. It played lights out, but needed some TLC. Guy ships it off to Bill Stroud for a refinish. Cue comes back refinished perfectly with a nice letter from Bill informing him that although it was a beautiful, well made cue he'd be proud to claim, he didn't make it. He didn't know who did, but it wasn't him. Guy was CRUSHED.