Referrel and Sales Comissions unpaid

professorpool

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To add to the woes of the unpaid players, we are starting to hear rumours of people that have received no money for sales and refferal commissions. IN the amount of thousands of dollars. Some of this goes back many many months with emails not replied to and so on.

I have also heard word that the IPT website has not been updated in two days. I'm not a regular visitor so can't tell.

Not boading well then. :(
 
Also, only 4 players turned up to the UK side qualifier.

I predict that the IPT's demise will beocme a self fulfilling proficy.
 
JasonDevanney said:
Turn it in Hammond!!!!!

Stick to posting this type of sh*t on that p*ss poor website where you ban anyone and everyone that speaks their mind!

Tap tap tap

Your right about that.I had a debate going with "professor pool"who moderates his own website.I saw him bullying others there and I didn't like it.
I was getting the upper hand in an argument with him and he didn't like it.Next thing you know I'm banned.Some UK site that he runs. He kind of made fun of me and called me a Yankee(or a tank driver,or something) ,even though I'm Canadian.

I certainly didn't deserve to be banned, that's for sure.
RJ
 
I have no idea who either of you are. Nice to see people like you have found a home for yourselves - away from our nice clean site.

Your posts indicate the intelectual levels you operate at. I'm sure our American cousins are happy to have you..
 
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JasonDevanney said:
Turn it in Hammond!!!!!

Stick to posting this type of sh*t on that p*ss poor website where you ban anyone and everyone that speaks their mind!

Thanmks for the advert mind.

Whats the address of this site then?
 
i would advise evryone not to listen to one word that proffessor pool says,as the only time he will be happy is when the world is playing pool according to nick hammond,ps he really isnt a bad guy but you really do leave a trail of hate behind you nick
 
JasonDevanney said:
Turn it in Hammond!!!!!

Stick to posting this type of sh*t on that p*ss poor website where you ban anyone and everyone that speaks their mind!

Give it a rest Jay, I've just spat coffee all over the keyboard :)

On a more serious note all does not look to good, all we seem to hear at the moment are two major problems, 1) Players not being paid and 2) poor shows at the qualifiers. It is hardly surpising that people are sceptical on the future of the IPT
 
it really wouldnt be so bad if one person actually said fair play to the guy,he promised to pat out $225,000 dollars at the mike sigal ljj match and he did
he promised to pay out one million dollars at the koth and he did
he promised to pay out two million dollars at the nao and he did,so i dont see any reason why all other promises should be fulfilled, oh of course that would leave you nothing to pray for every dayapart from the demise of everything non nick hammond
 
Not paid

I sponsored Sam Monday in Vegas. To this date, I have received nothing from the IPT and am owed $1100. Sam received his monies (9000). Despite repeated efforts (phone calls and Emails) I have been given the runaround and don't expect to receive a penny. Is is unfortunate, and I will continue to pursue payment ofthose funds owed to me by the IPT.
 
I back three players on UK pro tours and a number of other events. I was asked by about half a dozen players to back them on this. I pondered it for a while and nearly did it - so glad I didnt in the end.
 
Paul

Who are you supposed to contact at the IPT to report these matters? I tried to find anything on the IPT, Natural Cures and I didnt come up with much... lots of webpages dedicated to people that cant stop Natural Cures from charging their credit cards for newsletters - and then I found this page by accident:

Unethical Website of The Month :eek:

I didn't know there was an award for that. I should have sent a card. :)

I dont understand why some people dont realize how frustrating it is when you are owed money, but unable to track down the company that owes it to you. :confused: Its not fair and its definitely not professional.
 
IPT Contact

Despite repeated E-mails and phone calls the only person I have spoken with about this issue is Aaron Bruno-Lewis (Events Coordinator) 847-439-2739.
He contacted me originally about two months ago and confirmed my sponsorship, said I was owed $1100 and sent me a W9. I returned the W9 and sice then nothing. Pretty scary..........
 
Not scary unless they havent processed it yet.

A few more questions:

Did you make copies of all 4 pages for your records?
If so,where did you send the original to?
Was it mailed or faxed?
Where to?
Do you live in Illinois?
Was it mailed/faxed to Illionois
If it was faxed, did they send you a verification of receipt?
When you completed the W9 did you use your SSN or a TIN?

These questions need to be answered so you can trace what happened to the form. To be able to verify whether or not it was processed, you would need the name of the person you sent it to, their company, and their company information. Illinois has some numbers you can call - there are several on this list that apply to your situation -

Toll free numbers for State of Illinois

There is a tax fraud hotline - if you are worried that they have illegally obtained your information, taxed you without payment, etc. Send me a PM and I'll see if I can help you.
 
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faxed W4 and received confirmation of receipt from the gentleman I identified above. They've got all the info they need to process payment. I used my SS# I believe. Not getting paid really doesn't concern me as much as people thinking the IPT paid off everybody in the Vegas tournament. Not True. I can handle my end if it comes down to some type of legal action. Thank you I appreciate your support. There is nothing I would rather see than the IPT and all its players succeed in their venture. The concept is good and I feel if marketted properly it could succeed. The only way to succeed in killing a snake is by chopping off its head. Maybe Ho will legitimize the IPT, I don't know, but with the current leadership has indicated to me that they really don't care about the players or the game we all love so dearly.
 
Rodney said:
I think we have a record for new poster's in a single thread:confused: .

It is a childish thing for people to make posts of such nature on a different board about unrelated matters, for no good reason than politics are different.

In the UK, we play mostly blackball more commonly known as English pool or English 8 ball. In the UK there are two distinct codes based loosely around rules sets but really about geographical locations. People in England play World Rules and the rest of the UK play the WPA black ball rules. I am a promotor, sponsor, backer, philanthropist on one side and these people come from the other side.

You have players from both sides playing in the US. For example. Darren Appleton, Mick Hill, Rob McKenna etc are from one, Lee Tucker, Jason Shaw, Ben Davies etc are from the other. There is little to choose betweeen them talent wise. It's a tribal/political thing really.

Of those that have posted, one is all bitter and twisted and a slightly mad, yet intelligent nobody pool player who posts rather well, the other is a legendary player (a true gent and a hero of mine I have to say) now in his twighlight years - probably more bitter than most that I "changed sides" and backed the underdog who, under the influence of the WPA, are in resurgence while the other half is fading.

A player I have backed a few times himself actually.

It's a shame it has now spread to your site but rest assured you will not see me lower myself to such trivial and meaningless behaviour.

The IPT is indeed the best thing that has ever happened to pool of any discipline. To suggest otherwise is madness. Many pool related businesses have also seen benefits to this tour existing, ourselves included.

Additionally, the profile of the sport is up, tournament attendance is up - though in another discipline, which could prove near the final nail for a very minor discipline like our own.

I, like many others, that know a little about media sales in the sport, how the tv industry works, how advertising/sponsorship works, how revenue can be obtained etc, saw dangers in the overall business model and have voiced accordingly - that is not the same as wishing to see the tournament fail.

Far from it and the opposite applies. Our business interests are best served by better recognition of the sport.

The success of this tour stands ONLY on the goodwill of Tredeau, make no mistake. Lets hope that lasts a little longer. He is undoubtedly the Abramovich of pool - and that goodwill is all that is holding this together.

Perhaps he thought media sales were going to be greater? It is certainly well known that the conditions that were put on early sposnorship offerings were bordering on the ludicrous. $1m dollars and a revenue share of 10% gross of WORLDWIDE sales - was what was being asked of the cloth sponsors early in this tours life. Anyone that knows anything knows that amounts like this are completely ridiculous. We know this because this is what was asked of one of our partners.

Guess whether that deal was achieved or not?

Connections within Eurosport tell us that Eurosport have not paid for any tv coverage. I have no knowledge of the value of US tv deals.

If the business model requires sposnorship sales of that size AND the sale of tv rights, then it is certainly far far under target.

Perhaps this is why the change of formula to qualifiers?

If he has gone off the whole idea and is looking for a way out, then unfortunately, the writing is on the wall.
 
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