The losing player is a crybaby and a dumb gambler. What's the deal about players having to give the other guy a chance to win his money back. In what universe outside of pool is this common courtesy.
Refusing to adjust weight when you're ahead...bad form or not?
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The losing player is a crybaby and a dumb gambler. What's the deal about players having to give the other guy a chance to win his money back. In what universe outside of pool is this common courtesy.
It is bad form because adjusting a little should not reverse the race outcomes if you are winning by such large margins as 7-2 and 7-3. You can agree to adjust the spot and steamroller the guy some more, much to your financial advantage. But if the Wild 7 Ball is the one and only reason you are winning all those games, maybe take your winnings and agree to think about playing different some other night.
However, it sounds to me that no money had changed hands at this point, am I right?
Are you guys posting up before, and paying off after, each Race to 7?
If so, then adjusting the spot is the normal and usual thing to do when one guy is losing so badly. Adjusting one ball should not dramatically change the race scores from 7-2 to 2-7 anyway.
If you are not posting up, you should be. You have won nothing until the cash changes hands. When the opponent starts whining about the amount he is losing is the time to simply quit with no explanation except to offer to try to make a game another day. Nothing good is going to come from the rest of the evening - even if the opponent reverses his losses it works out bad for you.
If your actually playing to win then you don't help your opponent beat you.....
I've been in a spot like that before you just gotta ask yourself if you can win with less. If you feel like you can't but the guy is going off you gotta fire a barrel at him. If you know he's not a go off type dude then just let him pay it off and make a game another day. I have a guy I play that everyone thinks I'm robbing cause they see the days I win every set like 11-4 or better. I'm up around 12 sets and we play once or twice a week since MARCH! I think the game is right...just don't dog the bet when the game is right
I play a guy weekly. He's a better player than me, but he gives me some weight and we play short races for cheap, really cheap. It's more about practice and getting better or staying sharp than it is about the money. When we started playing, he gave me the 6. And at time, everyone who knew both of our games thought I was taking the worst of it. I don't suck that much as that he can play that good. We're talking about Cole Dickson's road partner here. Fast forward a few months to now, and I'm getting the 8 and still winning. Everyone thinks I'm outrunning the nuts, but a few things are going on. First of all, we play on a Diamond table with 4" pockets. This is pretty much all I've ever known. People go on and on about how tough this table is, and I simply don't give a f***. I play this table the same as I would any other table, while this guy lets how tough this table is supposed to be get in his head. Second of all, even though we play for super cheap, I feel every penny of it. I'm a pool player trying to get through college, he's been in pool all his life and has played (and still plays) for thousands. He doesn't feel any hit from losing to me, while I feel everything.
My point is, I'm up winner almost tenfold. I've come out loser 2 weeks out of I don't know how many. Every single game I'm supposed to lose. But I find a way to win. When he wants to adjust, I adjust. In doing so I'm keeping my practice partner, but also keeping a game I'm winning at. I've improved a lot since we first started playing, which was the entire point to begin with, but I've also won a good chunk of change for someone of my economic stature. If I refused to adjust, I wouldn't have a weekly game with a chance to put some money in my pocket, but more importantly I wouldn't have a strong playing partner to help me get better.
I guess it really depends upon what your motives are. If you're trying to make money and you have action out your ass, then stick to the game and tell him to win it back the way he lost it. If you don't have action out your ass, and don't want to lose a good thing, adjust and keep playing. Show him you're willing to work with him, and hopefully if he starts getting the better of it he'll be willing to readjust for you as well.
My point is, I'm up winner almost tenfold. I've come out loser 2 weeks out of I don't know how many. Every single game I'm supposed to lose. But I find a way to win. When he wants to adjust, I adjust. In doing so I'm keeping my practice partner, but also keeping a game I'm winning at. I've improved a lot since we first started playing, which was the entire point to begin with, but I've also won a good chunk of change for someone of my economic stature. If I refused to adjust, I wouldn't have a weekly game with a chance to put some money in my pocket, but more importantly I wouldn't have a strong playing partner to help me get better.
I guess it really depends upon what your motives are. If you're trying to make money and you have action out your ass, then stick to the game and tell him to win it back the way he lost it. If you don't have action out your ass, and don't want to lose a good thing, adjust and keep playing. Show him you're willing to work with him, and hopefully if he starts getting the better of it he'll be willing to readjust for you as well.
Everyone plays by the rule now you can't quit when up until the other guys quits so most the time it's break even situation lol it's not really gambling.
I guess this depends on the person I'm playing. If the guy was a cocky a-hole and gave me the spot then f him. I'll run it upon a$$ until he quits. If he was a cool guy just trying to make an even game and misjudged your speed then sure adjust the spot. There's no right or wrong answer.
I guess this depends on the person I'm playing. If the guy was a cocky a-hole and gave me the spot then f him. I'll run it upon a$$ until he quits. If he was a cool guy just trying to make an even game and misjudged your speed then sure adjust the spot. There's no right or wrong answer.
Good points, everyone plays the game for different reasons. Whether socially, economics, improvement, competition, etc. or a combination above. If you want to be in continual action then shearing the sheep might not be the best recourse.
Yeah I can agree with you. Just like KD explained, it depends on the motivation of the player. If you want to "gamble" the game needs to be close otherwise you might run off your customer. Different strokes for different folks.
just change it to the call the 7
unless its bar table and you are making the 7 on the break or your comboing it in regularly it shouldn't change much and make him happy that you have adjusted in his favor
its hard to say without knowing your skill levels
you can keep playing and still win money it sounds like
unless its bar table and you are making the 7 on the break or your comboing it in regularly it shouldn't change much and make him happy that you have adjusted in his favor
its hard to say without knowing your skill levels
you can keep playing and still win money it sounds like