Replacing the shaft collar on a ob

[winners07]

Ive replaced the collar on some ob shafts before, but this one must be a new model when i turn down the end to .625 i run into a carbon or phonlic insert. my concern is that now with no wood just the black phonlic that it will be weak and might snap off. it does have a un-lock insert but that only goes in about a inch. anyone know anything about this shaft.
Thanks Gary

 

[KJ Cues]

I wasn't aware that OB uses a phenolic insert. Predator does.
A pic would certainly help.

KJ

 

[winners07]

picture

I wasn't aware that OB uses a phenolic insert. Predator does.
A pic would certainly help.

KJ

Sorry to late for a picture already put on the new collar.
thanks gary

 

[RBC]

Model?
New?
Used?
When was it purchased?


There are a lot of possibilities based on the information you've provided. In order to give you the right information, I would need to know a few more things.

We've never used phenolic inserts as standard protocol, but it may have been a special order.

It may also have been partial that someone else put the joint in.

Mid last year, we changed our collar attachment design. This is identifiable by the amount of wood tenon exposed on the joint face. The older style had .625" of wood and the newer style has .525" of wood exposed. The new style still has a .625" tenon, but only for a small length closest to the shaft, then threads, then a small tenon to leave a clean round edge exposed at the joint face.

You may have seen one with the newer collar design. If so, when you machine down to .625", you won't have cut all the original collar away. There is still more than sufficient tenon and threads for structural integrity. Also, you should have no issues gluing to the phenolic, so a slip on collar will work just fine.


Royce

 

[winners07]

On shaft

Model?
New?
Used?
When was it purchased?


There are a lot of possibilities based on the information you've provided. In order to give you the right information, I would need to know a few more things.

We've never used phenolic inserts as standard protocol, but it may have been a special order.

It may also have been partial that someone else put the joint in.

Mid last year, we changed our collar attachment design. This is identifiable by the amount of wood tenon exposed on the joint face. The older style had .625" of wood and the newer style has .525" of wood exposed. The new style still has a .625" tenon, but only for a small length closest to the shaft, then threads, then a small tenon to leave a clean round edge exposed at the joint face.

You may have seen one with the newer collar design. If so, when you machine down to .625", you won't have cut all the original collar away. There is still more than sufficient tenon and threads for structural integrity. Also, you should have no issues gluing to the phenolic, so a slip on collar will work just fine.


Royce

I think he bought the shaft on e-bay, it didn't have a collar on it just a 1/8 thin black backing which was actually part of the insert, when I turned it to .625 I ran into the phonlic . So I went on an installed the new collar and it was fine but I was a little concerned . Thanks Gary

 

[RBC]

I think he bought the shaft on e-bay, it didn't have a collar on it just a 1/8 thin black backing which was actually part of the insert, when I turned it to .625 I ran into the phonlic . So I went on an installed the new collar and it was fine but I was a little concerned . Thanks Gary

Well, apparently, it's not our joint work.