Revenge case
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I know all about them. Instroke knockoffs from Pakistan. A lot of folks bought into them because they were similar to Instroke in appearance and the leather was nice. Unfortunately the quality of the work was not nearly as nice as the leather and most of them fell apart fairly quickly.
The person who brought them out was a "partner" in the fledgling Instroke company and I ended that partnership when the German police asked me to wear a wire to try and trap my "partner" into saying something incriminating about the source of his wealth.
I didn't wear the wire and had to end the partnership in a rather abrupt manner and lived under police protection for about six months.
The partner went to Pakistan and had cases made, named them "Revenge" and spent a year or two trying to establish a competitor to Instroke. He gave up after a while.
I don't know where you could of heard that the cases were made in Chicago. Hope this helps you Glen. I wouldn't want you purchase a case without knowing the origin.
The person who brought them out was a "partner" in the fledgling Instroke company and I ended that partnership when the German police asked me to wear a wire to try and trap my "partner" into saying something incriminating about the source of his wealth.
I didn't wear the wire and had to end the partnership in a rather abrupt manner and lived under police protection for about six months.
The partner went to Pakistan and had cases made, named them "Revenge" and spent a year or two trying to establish a competitor to Instroke. He gave up after a while.
I don't know where you could of heard that the cases were made in Chicago. Hope this helps you Glen. I wouldn't want you purchase a case without knowing the origin.
Revenge cases
There's a dealer here in cologne selling cases labelled Revenge, but I don't know anything about the company's owner,
production whereabouts, the cases construction and quality.
Hope this helps:
http://www.billardkoeln.de/
http://www.billard-taschen.de
Dirk
There's a dealer here in cologne selling cases labelled Revenge, but I don't know anything about the company's owner,
production whereabouts, the cases construction and quality.
Hope this helps:
http://www.billardkoeln.de/
http://www.billard-taschen.de
Dirk
JB Cases said:I know all about them. Instroke knockoffs from Pakistan. A lot of folks bought into them because they were similar to Instroke in appearance and the leather was nice. Unfortunately the quality of the work was not nearly as nice as the leather and most of them fell apart fairly quickly.
The person who brought them out was a "partner" in the fledgling Instroke company and I ended that partnership when the German police asked me to wear a wire to try and trap my "partner" into saying something incriminating about the source of his wealth.
I didn't wear the wire and had to end the partnership in a rather abrupt manner and lived under police protection for about six months.
The partner went to Pakistan and had cases made, named them "Revenge" and spent a year or two trying to establish a competitor to Instroke. He gave up after a while.
I don't know where you could of heard that the cases were made in Chicago. Hope this helps you Glen. I wouldn't want you purchase a case without knowing the origin.
Well, thanks for the information. Let's see, Pakistan, Germany, Chicago and China......International Man of Mystery, hey John Barton (If that is your real name) LOL
Glen
nasc said:Well, thanks for the information. Let's see, Pakistan, Germany, Chicago and China......International Man of Mystery, hey John Barton (If that is your real name) LOL
Glen
Actually it's not.
This is why I don't care too much about "where" something is made and quite a lot about HOW it's made.
For the first 13 years of my life I was known as John Kaplan, Kaplan being the name of my stepfather. However when I entered school in about the 8 or 9th grade, I forget which, the school got a copy of my birth certificate which listed my father's last name as Collins, (never met my real father, tears now....), so my name changed to Collins from that point on.
When I got married last time my wife didn't want to change her name as she is an only child. So I decided that I would change mine to hers, hence the last name Barton.
I may change it again - I didn't choose my parents, or the place I was born in. But I can choose who to be and where to be it. I can choose my partners, my production, my friends and my customers.
Instroke cases were started in Germany because that is where I happened to live at the time, after finishing my thankfully brief military service in the Air Force. They weren't German cases - they were John Kaplan Collins Barton cases and remain so where ever JKCB happens to decided to build them in the future.
Revenge cases are just that - Revenge - and are a prime example of what happens to the quality when you don't have the creator to direct.
May I ask Glen why you ask? Are you interested in purchasing one of these cases? Is there something you want to share.
I received an interesting PM that accused me of leaving Germany because I owed back taxes and was on the run from the German police. No, the reason I left Germany was far more nefarious than that - I was in love with a woman and followed her to Colorado. Stupid silly boy that I am. But that's how life goes sometimes.
No in Germany I paid all the high taxes and enjoyed a great health care system, perfect roads, beautiful scenery not marked up with advertising and McDonalds every five miles, wonderful friends, common sense and tolerance. I enjoyed the pool clubs and leagues and a general enchantment with the game.
And the last time I was there I got upgraded to a brand new Mercedes sport coupe for my rental car and so I enjoyed a week of driving on the Autobahn going up to 140mph (as high as I dared on the few stretches of no limit autobahn left.)
So thank you pool world for giving me the means to live all over the world for the last 17 years. Instroke is still going strong and providing some income for people all over the world, supporting one family and all their employees in Taiwan and still adding to the income of my ex-partners in Germany, either through original Instrokes as I designed them or through copies. I can live with that legacy and be the international man of mystery.
JBCK - JKCB -