Rings

[PetreeCues]

Alright, I just had another person in my shop try to tell me that the E ring is the one located on the cue above the wrap.

When someone says "rings at A, B, C, D, E", that obviuosly means at all 5 common places. But what's everyone's opinion about exactly what these letters mean individually? Is A on the shaft? Is B on the joint collar?

Just thought I would start a thread and ask everyone's thoughts, as obviously everyone is not on the same page. I always thought it was A on shaft, B on joint of butt, C above wrap, D below wrap, E above butt cap. Someone straighten me out here.

Thanks.

 

[Murray Tucker]

Alright, I just had another person in my shop try to tell me that the E ring is the one located on the cue above the wrap.

When someone says "rings at A, B, C, D, E", that obviuosly means at all 5 common places. But what's everyone's opinion about exactly what these letters mean individually? Is A on the shaft? Is B on the joint collar?

Just thought I would start a thread and ask everyone's thoughts, as obviously everyone is not on the same page. Someone straighten me out here.

Thanks.

"A" ring is above the wrap. "B" ring is below the wrap. At least in my world.

 

[ScottR]

"A" ring is above the wrap. "B" ring is below the wrap. At least in my world.

I always thought the A and B rings were at the joint, on the shaft and butt respectively. C is above wrap and D and E on the sleeve.

 

[TellsItLikeItIs]

Sorry, but I got tickled. We makers are so in agreeance on some things, but not on others.

A=Shaft
B=Below JC
c=Above wrap
d=Below wrap
e=Above butt cap

Some time back someone mentioned an "F" ring. Where the heck we gonna put that??????

 

[PetreeCues]

I think I will use an "F" in my reply to that knucklehead. E means above the wrap.... right.

I have been spraying urethane today, but it ain't THAT strong.

 

[Murray Tucker]

I always thought the A and B rings were at the joint, on the shaft and butt respectively. C is above wrap and D and E on the sleeve.

I have collected and played with SouthWest cues long before I started making cues of my own. They use "A" and "B" for above and below the wrap so I just went along with them.

 

[BLACKHEARTCUES]

Alright, I just had another person in my shop try to tell me that the E ring is the one located on the cue above the wrap.

When someone says "rings at A, B, C, D, E", that obviuosly means at all 5 common places. But what's everyone's opinion about exactly what these letters mean individually? Is A on the shaft? Is B on the joint collar?

Just thought I would start a thread and ask everyone's thoughts, as obviously everyone is not on the same page. I always thought it was A on shaft, B on joint of butt, C above wrap, D below wrap, E above butt cap. Someone straighten me out here.

Thanks.

I AGREE WITH YOU...JER

 

[TellsItLikeItIs]

I think I will use an "F" in my reply to that knucklehead. E means above the wrap.... right.

I have been spraying urethane today, but it ain't THAT strong.

You gonna add 3 letters to the "F"

 

[TellsItLikeItIs]

I have collected and played with SouthWest cues long before I started making cues of my own. They use "A" and "B" for above and below the wrap so I just went along with them.

I didn't know that, wonder why?

For a long time I wondered why the "A" joint was designated so. I finally concluded that it was the same as in a paragraph (para 1, para 1,a). Made sense to me at the time. Course I drank then too.

Does anyone know for certain?

 

[QMAKER]

Ring Letter Designation

According to the BLUE BOOK OF POOL CUES (Page 28) ""A" is above the wrap,
"B" is below the wrap, and "C", "D", and "E" refer to different points in the butt sleeve, which can change depending on the cuemaker."

Bob Flynn
Denali Cues

 

[cueman]

According to the BLUE BOOK OF POOL CUES (Page 28) ""A" is above the wrap,
"B" is below the wrap, and "C", "D", and "E" refer to different points in the butt sleeve, which can change depending on the cuemaker."

Bob Flynn
Denali Cues

A=Above
B=Below
Going along with the first letter of the description. I guess that is as good of an answer as I have seen. I have another theory and a theory is all it is, because I heard the wrap joint called the A-joint many years ago and it stuck with me whether right or wrong. The A-Joint and A-rings are normally the first joint and rings installed in the cue. So if ABC represents the order you do things then A ring is first then B ring at the other end of the wrap is second and so on.
Chris
www.cuesmith.com
www.internationalcuemakers.com

 

[MVPCues]

A=Above
B=Below
Going along with the first letter of the description. I guess that is as good of an answer as I have seen. I have another theory and a theory is all it is, because I heard the wrap joint called the A-joint many years ago and it stuck with me whether right or wrong. The A-Joint and A-rings are normally the first joint and rings installed in the cue. So if ABC represents the order you do things then A ring is first then B ring at the other end of the wrap is second and so on.
Chris
www.cuesmith.com
www.internationalcuemakers.com

I say you guys band together and start a new description!
In order from top to bottom obviously...

Shaft Ring
Joint Ring
Handle Ring
Sleeve Ring
Butt Ring

Kelly

 

[bandido]

IMO the designations should have been:
A=joint rings that also refers to the shaft ring as it normally matches and is considered as one unit with the ring on the butt side of the main joint. ie joint rings or joint ringwork.

B= above the wrap next set of ringwork closest to the joint.
C=below the wrap
D=closest to the butt cap

But for specific designation, I do prefer the A-E designation as stated in a previous post. It makes it much easier to pinpoint a specific ringwork when discussing custom work or repairwork with a customer.

The A-joint designation came about because it is the "very first joint mated together" when building a cue.

Just my Op.

 

[TellsItLikeItIs]

But for specific designation, I do prefer the A-E designation as stated in a previous post. It makes it much easier to pinpoint a specific ringwork when discussing custom work or repairwork with a customer.

Especially given that much of the design discussion is often done via email, I also prefer the A-E description. Our customer may or may not know which ring is installed first.

The A-joint designation came about because it is the "very first joint mated together" when building a cue.
Just my Op.

Thanks Edwin, that does make sense.

 

[Arnot Wadsworth]

Ring Location

I gave up on the A-B-C-D-E-F Ring discription long ago because nobody agreed on anything and there was too much confusion. When we are building a custom cue and taking input from customers over the phone or email there is no room for error. We have learned the hard way to use the following terms.

Rings on the shaft
Rings at the shaft joint
Rings in front of the Wrap (or handle)
Rings below the wrap (or handle)
Rings in the Butt Sleeve

Just what I do to make sure there is no confusion.

 

[ScottR]

I have collected and played with SouthWest cues long before I started making cues of my own. They use "A" and "B" for above and below the wrap so I just went along with them.

I didn't mean any disrespect, Murray. Just stating what I was told.

 

[Murray Tucker]

I didn't mean any disrespect, Murray. Just stating what I was told.

I did not see any disrespect in your post. Sorry if my answer made it sound like I did. I'm a hell of a lot better at talking than I am typing.

 

[cueman]

I did not see any disrespect in your post. Sorry if my answer made it sound like I did. I'm a hell of a lot better at talking than I am typing.

Aren't we all. Only difference is I open my big mouth sometimes and can't take it back. Sometimes I reread my post before hitting submit and delete something I think will be taken wrong or something just plain best left unsaid.
Chris
www.cuesmith.com
www.internationalcuemakers.com