Road Trip! 4 spots for pros!

[nobcitypool]

Don't know if your concept is sound or not. Assuming it is, I think your math is flawed.

Assuming there is a 50% margin, for 5 guys to make $100 each per day, you'd have to sell $1,000 worth of product ($500 cost, $500 profit divided by 5 = $100 each). I question that you find that many pool halls where the clientele has $1,000 to spend on ecigs on a given night.

You want to take 5 pros into a pool hall, once again, I think it would be a struggle to find that many marks on most night with $100 to $500 or more to lose. In other words, your available market likely isn't large enough to support 5 people every day of the week.

If your concept is to work, seems like it has a better chance to succeed with 2 to 3 people at most. Also, you apparently are going to purchase $2500 worth of product to start. At the margins I earlier described, that makes you $2500 total. Divide by 5, that is $500 each. At $100 per day, that is 5 days. What then? I assume you can get it shipped to you. So 2 days after you start your trip, you'll have to reorder or you'll be out of your revenue source. If it took $2500 on the first order, safe to assume it will take $2500 for the reorder. So you'll have to generate $2500 in profit the first two days in excess of your expenses in order to finance your resupply needs. Doesn't sound like you have a credit card to order with so how do you plan to make that work?

 

[swami4u]

Don't know if your concept is sound or not. Assuming it is, I think your math is flawed.

Assuming there is a 50% margin, for 5 guys to make $100 each per day, you'd have to sell $1,000 worth of product ($500 cost, $500 profit divided by 5 = $100 each). I question that you find that many pool halls where the clientele has $1,000 to spend on ecigs on a given night.

You want to take 5 pros into a pool hall, once again, I think it would be a struggle to find that many marks on most night with $100 to $500 or more to lose. In other words, your available market likely isn't large enough to support 5 people every day of the week.

If your concept is to work, seems like it has a better chance to succeed with 2 to 3 people at most. Also, you apparently are going to purchase $2500 worth of product to start. At the margins I earlier described, that makes you $2500 total. Divide by 5, that is $500 each. At $100 per day, that is 5 days. What then? I assume you can get it shipped to you. So 2 days after you start your trip, you'll have to reorder or you'll be out of your revenue source. If it took $2500 on the first order, safe to assume it will take $2500 for the reorder. So you'll have to generate $2500 in profit the first two days in excess of your expenses in order to finance your resupply needs. Doesn't sound like you have a credit card to order with so how do you plan to make that work?

Don't need too make 100 each a day' need to make about 150-200 a day total to eat & motel.....

And if we need to reload on product every 2 weeks' don't ya think that's a good problem to have? We will go to a location for 4-7 days+ - each stop.
It's not a non stop circle around the US.


Again, the idea is not to get rich selling e-cigs, the idea is to cover travel expenses. And keep the players around action. Any winnings over base expenses is the bee's knees....right?

So 5-6 pro players, cant drum up a 100 in action/lessons a day, plus the ecig money? That's 150-300 a day to cover expenses......don't think 5 guys can live off 150-300 a day???? And don't forget to factor in the small local tournaments, opens, that pay 100-300 a pop. Bar tournaments? ect ect..
Imagination is the biggest part of the game.....

200 a day is not hard.....that keeps the train rolling, the rest is up to how much money is won......like it always has been..

Now the flip side is bulking up, before you make a move.....for every day of driving, your losing gas money, food, and a motel every night (for a long drive) So it might cost 400 too go 2 days dwn the road, so you want to make sure you have a pot at the end of that rainbow. That's were road experience comes into play.

But this trip is about mixing in local tournaments, bar tournaments, regional tournaments, and national tournaments. And every one of those will net profits in sales....the action and winning the tournament is always a chance, like it always has been. The only real difference here is the ecigs and all they do is generate some extra income to cover what hurts a road players wallet the most, expenses.

There is other ways to generate income also, buy and sell cues, ect
Also, there is sometimes backers that like to take good players around,
and some times, there is a floor at a players house for a week or two for a cool crew, that have some good herbs and don't mind buying a case.. ect...that helps with expenses also.

Everyone says AZ and the like kills road players, it kills road hustlers..... difference. Think a group of 5 pros are going to sneak up on anyone?
I dont think so...... you use AZ to network......Hey we are coming to location X need a place for a week, who got the spot. We have the budda and beer. Its all about having fun, playing pool, seeing the country, and meeting cool people.
The money comes and go's up and down. This is what one misses when they get all locked into money money money.....The game never gets old when your having fun playing, if you aren't having fun playing, quit. Its unreal how many people don't get this..Fun is traveling, playing pool all day, not having to work like a migrant worker 9-5, eating good, and seeing the country......That's my thinking, and if its not yours, this is not the trip for you.

 

[JB Cases]

If you read up there in one of my record setting, million post ramble's, you'll see i said the same thing......"with the owners permission of course" :thumbup: I dont do shady. Good advice thxs. And its nice to see i'm not the only one that likes to travel, play pool, and make a few bucks along the way bud! Now if i could only get so lucky, and end up around a bunch of hot china lady's like you did, i would be all set!

Sorry I didn't see it, well then in that case I say GO FOR IT. One of the best times of my life (except for the extra 30lbs I put on) was buying a van and traveling the USA hitting all the tournaments, shows and pool rooms I could selling Instroke cases.

I went from coast to coast and border to border to border. And when the kids are a bit older I might damn well do it again with the family.

Good luck on your journey and remember the more people the more strife but somehow I think you have a good bead on what you want to do. Wish I had the pool stroke and the time to join you.

 

[swami4u]

Sorry I didn't see it, well then in that case I say GO FOR IT. One of the best times of my life (except for the extra 30lbs I put on) was buying a van and traveling the USA hitting all the tournaments, shows and pool rooms I could selling Instroke cases.

I went from coast to coast and border to border to border. And when the kids are a bit older I might damn well do it again with the family.

Good luck on your journey and remember the more people the more strife but somehow I think you have a good bead on what you want to do. Wish I had the pool stroke and the time to join you.

Thxs, i agree 100%! You sold cases, and got too see the country. Not once did you mention the money you made or didnt make, you talked about the fun you had traveling. No amount of money can replace good memory's. Its a little better if the money is right too, but its not everything. With some of the comments, i wonder if there are any players left with a sense of adventure, and willing to take a risk, without a already set outcome?

 

[nobcitypool]

Don't need too make 100 each a day' need to make about 150-200 a day total to eat & motel.....

And if we need to reload on product every 2 weeks' don't ya think that's a good problem to have? We will go to a location for 4-7 days+ - each stop.
It's not a non stop circle around the US.


Again, the idea is not to get rich selling e-cigs, the idea is to cover travel expenses. And keep the players around action. Any winnings over base expenses is the bee's knees....right?

So 5-6 pro players, cant drum up a 100 in action/lessons a day, plus the ecig money? That's 150-300 a day to cover expenses......don't think 5 guys can live off 150-300 a day???? And don't forget to factor in the small local tournaments, opens, that pay 100-300 a pop. Bar tournaments? ect ect..
Imagination is the biggest part of the game.....

200 a day is not hard.....that keeps the train rolling, the rest is up to how much money is won......like it always has been..

Now the flip side is bulking up, before you make a move.....for every day of driving, your losing gas money, food, and a motel every night (for a long drive) So it might cost 400 too go 2 days dwn the road, so you want to make sure you have a pot at the end of that rainbow. That's were road experience comes into play.

Okay, understood. Different lifestyle, I easily spend $200 per day or more by myself when I travel. LOL. With that said, I wish I were 30 years younger with a good enough stroke to join your group. Sounds like it has the potential to be quite memorable. Good luck and be safe.

 

[swami4u]

Okay, understood. Different lifestyle, I easily spend $200 per day or more by myself when I travel. LOL. With that said, I wish I were 30 years younger with a good enough stroke to join your group. Sounds like it has the potential to be quite memorable. Good luck and be safe.

Haha' don't get me wrong, i hope we make enough to travel, stay in a Hilton every night, and drink Dom. I always look at the low side first, then the upside is that much more sweet if it happens. Good luck to you too.

 

[banged up]

I am a lousy salesman and a worse player lol but it sounds like an idea with potential. As far as the e cigs go i can tell you i think they are great IF you get the right ones. Awful lot of cheap / inferior product out there that's a waste of peoples time / money.

 

[Put_upor_shutup]

Put down myself and Chris Bartram. Were gonna see if Mikey Frost, David Parker, and Andrew Cleary wanna go also.

I always wanted to get a feel for smoking cigarettes without actually risking the cancer part..He'll yea.I'm in..As long as we take turns with the radio..I however don't run out and would be willing to risk the whole teams daily revenue on the outcome of a coin flip..sweeeet..Where is the first stop?Thanks David Parker

 

[The Renfro]

New plan!!!!

Pick up 3 guys and then the e-cigs.... Drive NW Immediately and find Geno out around OK or whereever he is.... He already has 2 men and a van AND I AM SURE he would be your TOP seller of the e-cigs to get himself out of the smoke!!!

 

[ironman]

Pick up 3 guys and then the e-cigs.... Drive NW Immediately and find Geno out around OK or whereever he is.... He already has 2 men and a van AND I AM SURE he would be your TOP seller of the e-cigs to get himself out of the smoke!!!

Two in a car is crowded. Three is a pain in the ass. Four is just plain scary.
Five would be like a nightmare.