Ronnie Alcano
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Efren used the name "Ceaser Morales" so he would be able to find action...not rob people... I am sure the people playing him were jam up players as well if they were playing him for high stakes.
Many road players have done this but lets face facts, those that saw "Ceaser Morales" play knew he could play. But, they still wanted a piece of him.
Ronnie has been accused of doing his stakehorse wrong.... not robbing his opponents!!!
SSach
Efren used the name "Ceaser Morales" so he would be able to find action...not rob people... I am sure the people playing him were jam up players as well if they were playing him for high stakes.
Many road players have done this but lets face facts, those that saw "Ceaser Morales" play knew he could play. But, they still wanted a piece of him.
Ronnie has been accused of doing his stakehorse wrong.... not robbing his opponents!!!
SSach
EL'nino said:
Did he not give huge spots?
Did'nt they see how he plays before they played for money against him?
There's only one reason to lie about your name when you're gambling (YOU'RE CROOKED). When you lie about anything before any financial transaction with anyone for any reason you are a crook, even if you are the great Efren Reyes. Being the most talanted poolplayer in the world doesn't change that.karambolista said:
EL'nino said:
You got a point there.
Though, it might not be Efren's idea to use a different name. Did'nt his manager/backer took his earnings?
And when someone ask for his autograph, what did he write? Efren Reyes.
Yes, Efren came to this country and robbed people and then his backers robbed him. "What goes around comes around". Don't get me wrong, I love Reyes like every other pool fan in the world does (how can't you) he's probably the most talanted human being I've ever seen, but he's still a crook!!karambolista said:
Didn't consider it bickering at all. We just gave both sides of the story based on our personal experience. Kind of gave both parties a fair shake then let the readers decide.Raf626 said:
I'm surprised to hear that somebody here also went through that, those were during my HS to college days and was well involved in that. I can pretty much say that its even, Gangland Phil and Gangland USA, as I lived in SoCal from 1984-1997 continuous and to 2001 in months at a time.
To the guy that said Efren is a crook, check that out first thoroughly. Crook/ nope. Exploited, yes!
Edwin Reyes
EL'nino said:
What about the american player that uses an alias when he goes around the country hustling. Let me give you an example......Wade Crane/Billy Johnson. one in the same person. He did the same thing. Does that make him a bad person?????????????????????????........mike
Efren's not a crook.EL'nino said:
Efren came in to this country as Cesar Morales because he could not get a US visa. He was dirt poor and had no properties.
You obviously do not know how Efren is in real life.
If you did you wouldn't cast a huge stone at Efren.
Some players out there are reputed dumpers. They'd sell out their own moms.
But, funny thing is they're broke now.
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Anyone ever hear of a very young Strickland dressing up in drag so that he could "rob" some local ladies events?
THATS STEALING.
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THATS STEALING.
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I could just see Efren scratching his head on this one.
Funny how quickly this thread became the saga that was Efren Reyes.
In that Houston tournament, did it really matter whether Efren Reyes registered as Cesar Morales or Efren Reyes? Was there a rule that disqualified Reyes outright from that tournament?
The ones that chose to gamble against "Cesar Morales" even after seeing how he played were warned enough. On top of that, even if they knew it was actually Efren Reyes they were facing, those so-called people who got robbed wouldn't have acted differently. Given enough resources and a distorted sense of machismo, everybody would have wanted a piece of the much-heralded Efren Reyes whom they were face-to-face for the first time.
EL'nino said:
Funny how quickly this thread became the saga that was Efren Reyes.
In that Houston tournament, did it really matter whether Efren Reyes registered as Cesar Morales or Efren Reyes? Was there a rule that disqualified Reyes outright from that tournament?
The ones that chose to gamble against "Cesar Morales" even after seeing how he played were warned enough. On top of that, even if they knew it was actually Efren Reyes they were facing, those so-called people who got robbed wouldn't have acted differently. Given enough resources and a distorted sense of machismo, everybody would have wanted a piece of the much-heralded Efren Reyes whom they were face-to-face for the first time.
I thought that when Efren played in Houston, no one had heard of Efren prior to that. It was my understanding that players here had no reason at that time to fear any Filipino player because no one here knew enough about Efren and Jose. Although I understand that Jose had been here for a while already and had been doing pretty good playing in money games.
kep2 said:
EL'nino said:
When gambling at pool, in my opinion, there's only one rule: caveat emptor --"Let the Buyer Beware"
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If you have ever met Wade Crane/Billy Johnson, you would know first hand HE IS a " bad person "
If you have ever met Wade Crane/Billy Johnson, you would know first hand HE IS a " bad person "