Ronnie O'Sullivan vs American Pool Player?

as child he loved pool or he wouldn't have had the necessary passion to become great

one stroke said:
Willie Mosconi said on more than one occasion he never really liked pool he did it because he was good at it and made him money



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This can happen at a later age, however, as child he loved pool or he wouldn't have had the necessary passion to become great.
 
To develop into a championship level player practice must be an obsession

one stroke said:
There is no question in my mind he's closer to playing top tier pool than any pool player is playing top tier snooker

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I agree, no pool player that I know even likes snooker enough to even practice an hour a day......Corey's been playing it, however, I'm not sure he actually enjoys it.....maybe, but I doubt if he has the passion for snooker that he has for pool.

To develop into a championship level player practice must be an obsession, not a "duty".
 
CJ Wiley said:
I agree, no pool player that I know even likes snooker enough to even practice an hour a day......Corey's been playing it, however, I'm not sure he actually enjoys it.....maybe, but I doubt if he has the passion for snooker that he has for pool.

To develop into a championship level player practice must be an obsession, not a "duty".
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I know a few , Alex put some big time practice in trying to break into the money rounds last yr ,needless to say that never happened ,,

I've yet to meet any pool player that did not enjoy snooker


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Cardigan Kid said:
It's my belief that what holds many pool players back is pride when it comes to taking on snooker.
A top pool instructor taking on a student and the first request by the student is "I want to improve but I don't want to mess with my stroke"

The first thing that has to go is the pool player stance, the mika type warm up strokes-pretty much the entire approach to the shot is foreign to anyone who has played pool for their life.

So many don't even try. Too stubborn to admit that the way they have approached the shot fundamentally for the last thirty years just isn't the most ideal.

However, if you go ahead with your plans to join the snooker club, I'm absolutely positive you would emerge as a far more consistent pool player with the skills you would acquire. If I had a snooker club in my city, I'd join in a second, even though my heart resides with pool.
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This is so true. Tiger Woods is one of the greatest golfers ever. But not all that long ago he completed changed his swing because he knew there was a better more consistent stroke he could be using. He knew it wasn't going to be easy and it would take some time but he did it regardless because he knew the results would be worth while.
 
Ty-Tanic said:
This is so true. Tiger Woods is one of the greatest golfers ever. But not all that long ago he completed changed his swing because he knew there was a better more consistent stroke he could be using. He knew it wasn't going to be easy and it would take some time but he did it regardless because he knew the results would be worth while.
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Tell me how's that working out for him



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ChicagoRJ said:
Don't bother feeding the resident troll boy, AKA The Thaiger. Based on his comments in NPR, all Americans suck, not just at billiards, but in just about every endeavor known to mankind.

Meanwhile, sitting his mom's basement, with about 5 good teeth left, and a crooked smile, he celebrates his latest victory on AZB ;)
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Don't forget about eating that great food there drowned in that brown sauce.
 
voiceofreason said:
Absolutely bores the pants off me. Can't stand it.
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Yea, its not that fun. As far as alternative cue sports go, 3 cushion is way more interesting than snooker (and probably more interesting than I imagine pyramid, British 8 ball, or Chinese 8 ball would be).
 
CJ Wiley said:
ESPN is the key in the United States, just like SKY SPORTS is the main ingredient to Ronnie's status (Barry Hearn is also an expert marketer/promoter).
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Maybe ESPN is the key in the US, but SKY Sports has next to nothing to do with Ronnie's status. I'm amazed someone can sound so certain about something so wide of the mark.
 
Masayoshi said:
Yea, its not that fun. As far as alternative cue sports go, 3 cushion is way more interesting than snooker (and probably more interesting than I imagine pyramid, British 8 ball, or Chinese 8 ball would be).
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Seriously?:eek:

Snooker has what every other cue sport has and more. There is a depth and variety that no other game can match.
 
Blue Jam said:
Maybe ESPN is the key in the US, but SKY Sports has next to nothing to do with Ronnie's status. I'm amazed someone can sound so certain about something so wide of the mark.
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Then what are the ingredients? Nothing to do with Barry being an expert promoter/marketer?
 
Mark O'Meara was Tiger's best friend at the time and had recommended Hank

Ty-Tanic said:
This is so true. Tiger Woods is one of the greatest golfers ever. But not all that long ago he completed changed his swing because he knew there was a better more consistent stroke he could be using. He knew it wasn't going to be easy and it would take some time but he did it regardless because he knew the results would be worth while.
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That's correct, I was hanging out with Hank Haney when he was discussing these things with Tiger. Mark O'Meara was Tiger's best friend at the time and had recommended Hank to do the job, and he did a great job historically speaking.

Tiger's "tee to green" game improved, however, like you said it took a lot of work,dedication and faith in Hank's techniques to make these changes.
 
CJ Wiley said:
Then what are the ingredients? Nothing to do with Barry being an expert promoter/marketer?
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Since the Snooker World Championships is still on BBC, and has never been on Sky Sports, and Snooker has not been run by Barry Hearn for that long, then I would say Ronnie's status as a superstar has very little to do with Barry Hearn. It is to do with the fact that every home in the UK has BBC, and Snooker is a popular sport over here in Europe.
 
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I still can't figure out the rules of criquet.

Grantstew said:
Since the Snooker World Championships is still on BBC, and has never been on Sky Sports, and Snooker has not been run by Barry Hearn for that long, then I would say Ronnie's status as a superstar has very little to do with Barry Hearn. It is to do with the fact that every home in the UK has BBC, and Snooker is a popular sport over here in Europe.
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I played Ronnie on Sky Sports in 1996, of course that was in the Mosconi Cup. Thanks for the correction. I still can't figure out the rules of criquet. ;)
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CJ Wiley said:
I played Ronnie on Sky Sports in 1996, of course that was in the Mosconi Cup. Thanks for the correction. I still can't figure out the rules of criquet. ;)
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The Mosconi Cup has nothing to do with Ronnie's status :sorry:

And it's Cricket...

I was asked by an American in a bar last summer to explain the rules of cricket... But I didn't have week to spare ;)
 
Ron Swanson said:
Seriously?:eek:

Snooker has what every other cue sport has and more. There is a depth and variety that no other game can match.
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Exaggerate much? All the safeties played in snooker are played in 9/10 ball (well, except the ones that don't require a rail), not all the safeties in 9/10 ball are present in snooker. The same goes for kicks, banks, cuts, stroke shots, and position play. The only thing snooker has in terms of variety over short rack rotation is difficulty in distance, breaking out clusters, and arguably strategy (emphasize arguably). Of course, other games are way more intensive than snooker in terms of breaking out clusters and strategy along with many of the other aspects mentioned, like 14.1 and one pocket and that's just pool. 3 cushion is a whole different world of intricacy, technique, and knowledge.
 
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To quote Matchroom

The origins of Matchroom Sport came in the mid-1970s when chartered accountant Barry Hearn became Chairman of Lucania Snooker Clubs, a UK-wide chain. Developing an interest in the sport, Hearn became the manager of aspiring snooker pro Steve Davis in 1978. What followed was an unprecedented explosion in British sport that saw snooker become the nation’s No.1 TV sport with Hearn and Davis at the forefront.

In 1982, Matchroom Sport was formed in offices in Romford, Essex as the company became the pre-eminent management company in snooker, managing the eight biggest names in the game including four World Champions.

IIRC Hearn has managed Ronnie twice.

As for SkySport, it likes gimmicks:
In pool, the Mosconi Cup
In snooker, The Shoot Out and Six Reds.
 
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