Rule help please???

obsespool

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Hi,
(posted this in ask instructor but might get faster results here?)
I am trying to locate a CURRENT printable version of BCA (NOT BCA Pool League) 8 ball rules. Or perhaps a CURRENT WPA 8 ball rules would be fine. I found a 2008 WPA printable rules but not sure if that is still current.
Our local small town county pool leage voted this year to abandon the dinasoar rules they had for many, many years and opted to follow REGULAR BCA (again, NOT the bcapl rules).
I volunteered to print something out for them. I think the WPA is closer to regular BCA and would be fine? But, would like to find current version and/or current REGULAR BCA version to print.
Can you please help me? (I've tried the search and found nothing current)
Thank you so much in advance!
Thanks,
Obsespool
 
Thanks! Well, when you click "download the pdf" for the particular choice of rules, the wpa pulls up one that says 2007 at top of page and the bca one pulls one up that says 2008 at top of page. I thought there likely had been some changes since then?
 
Thanks! Well, when you click "download the pdf" for the particular choice of rules, the wpa pulls up one that says 2007 at top of page and the bca one pulls one up that says 2008 at top of page. I thought there likely had been some changes since then?

Yep there were.

The earth is in a totally different position around the sun now than in 07 or 08, trees have grown some, one of my kids is married now, I need size 36 pants.

Lots of changes.
 
The date on the PDF was the date the rules were issued but they were effective for 2008. This is the most recent official revision of the rules. I think they may be in discussions right now about it but as of the moment these are the rules. They are the exact same ones as on the WPA website. If Bob Jewett comes across this thread maybe he can provide some more information.
 
Yep there were.

The earth is in a totally different position around the sun now than in 07 or 08, trees have grown some, one of my kids is married now, I need size 36 pants.

Lots of changes.
Ya, I ocassionall notice Bob Jewetts updates in BD on rule changes so thinking the 07 version may have changed.
 
I hope pool rules aren't like french haunte couture, where competition drives a fresh look every season. Imagine the folks at APA fretting about BCA allowing jump cues, and wondering if one foot on the floor is passe and obsolete.

I think the whole point of having a rule book, any rule book, is to have a reference to settle disputes. It doesn't matter if they're old, as long as you can get people to abide. ex. we're using 2007.
 
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The date on the PDF was the date the rules were issued but they were effective for 2008. This is the most recent official revision of the rules. I think they may be in discussions right now about it but as of the moment these are the rules. They are the exact same ones as on the WPA website. If Bob Jewett comes across this thread maybe he can provide some more information.
Thank you so much! I am going to go with these as is for now then. Our funny little small town league would likely never notice anyway! : ) Thank you for helping!
 
I hope pool rules aren't like french haunte couture, where competition drives a fresh look every season. Imagine the folks at APA fretting about BCA allowing jump cues, and wondering if one foot on the floor is passe and obsolete.
Ya for sure! To each his own............but I am certainly thankful our little league did not choose apa!!!
 
APA doesn't allow dedicated jump cues. To me its like uniforms in private school. Whereas in the free wheeling BCA realm its dictated by fashion. Just like when I see people ditching Predator Airs for Lomax. When I break out (pun intended) my Sledgehammer, I stand out like the 80's guy with the mullet.

Don't get me started on chalk fashion. :-)

Ya for sure! To each his own............but I am certainly thankful our little league did not choose apa!!!
 
Thank you so much! I am going to go with these as is for now then. Our funny little small town league would likely never notice anyway! : ) Thank you for helping!

To be honest, if I were to adopt rules for a league I'd go with the BCAPL rules. They are very similar in most regards to the WPA game rules but I think in certain respects they are more comprehensive AND contain a handy applied rulings section that details certain situations that have come up and the ruling for them. Their just written with a little more detailed explanations probably to assist in settling the inevitable disputes that come up in league play.
 
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...I think the WPA is closer to regular BCA and would be fine...

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